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To: Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; Forest Keeper; PAR35; Lee N. Field; Dutchboy88; ...
While denying that the elements themselves are in any way changed, he argued strongly that Christ was truly present by his/the Spirit in such a way that we can and should believe that Christ is truly, “really” present. In other words, the “real” presence of Christ, is a uniquely spiritual presence.

AMEN! Scriptural and God-glorifying.

"Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness." -- Psalm 30:4


"And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. " -- Luke 22:19

So unlike the error of Rome's pageant, filled with mysticism and tyranny.

"For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.

Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion." -- Isaiah 41:28-29


12 posted on 12/28/2008 2:13:43 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I agree and there is scriptural evidence to support this position.


13 posted on 12/28/2008 3:15:19 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; Forest Keeper; PAR35; Lee N. Field; ...
While denying that the elements themselves are in any way changed, he argued strongly that Christ was truly present by his/the Spirit in such a way that we can and should believe that Christ is truly, “really” present. In other words, the “real” presence of Christ, is a uniquely spiritual presence.

I think the reformed position is stronger than that. I've been told that the Lord's Supper and Baptism are believed to be a "means of grace" that is fulfilled by the Holy Spirit at a later date.

It seems to be one of the few areas where we Baptists disagree with our Reformed brothers and Sisters. I wonder what the views are of the Methodists.

28 posted on 12/29/2008 10:59:35 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support Senateconservatives.com)
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