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To: shurwouldluv_a_smallergov
So you believe that each individual non-Catholic Christian that has been "born again" is uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit to interpret scripture in their own way... some say drinking is immoral, while others say it is fine if not to excess; some say homosexual behavior is wrong, others say it is not; some say abortion is wrong, others not. Are they not, as born again Christians, all claiming the unerring Word of God for their authority? How can they believe different things about it?

Nope...Those who actually believe every word of the scriptures pretty much agree on everything...Those who don't, change a word here, a sentence there, you know, like the Catholic church does...

Catholics believe ALL scripture.

Sure you do...You just don't know what it says...You just can not discern the spiritual from the literal to the allegorical...Like Eusibius and his mentor said, It's all allegorical, except Eat My Flesh...

You guys think the more intellectual one is the more he knows about scripture...

We do not pick and choose those that fit our preconceived notions,

Of course you do...Your church is founded on a handful of scriptures, taken out of context...

Where the text says keys, you say power...Where it says water, you say baptism...And where it says baptism, you say water...And when it comes to the verse where John says I baptize with water, but HE will baptize with the Holy Ghost, You guys can't even discuss the verse...You don't have a clue...

Where it says millenium, you guys say, a very long time...LOL...Where it says Heaven, you say God...The list is endless...But you believe the scriptures, eh??? Only after you change them...

89 posted on 01/02/2009 10:23:59 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Those who actually believe every word of the scriptures pretty much agree on everything...Those who don't, change a word here, a sentence there, you know, like the Catholic church does...

"pretty much"? So the difference between Lutherans, Baptists, Anglicans, etc... Do they not have doctrinal differences? I am no expert in the various Protestant denominations, but I've heard that some claim drinking alcohol is sinful, while others do not. I know there are people calling themselves Christian that claim the same inspiration of the Holy Spirit that tell me homosexual activity is ok, and that abortion is an acceptable practice. I've heard some famous Protestant ministers preach against these very acts as sinful. Who is right? They both claim inspiration of the Spirit? Does the Holy Spirit tell people different things?

Of course you do...Your church is founded on a handful of scriptures, taken out of context...

First, the Catholic Church is NOT founded on scripture; our Church is founded by and on Jesus Christ- Your scripture is a result of the efforts of the Catholic Church throughout the years, writing, collecting, protecting, preserving, and codifying it- under the direction of the Holy Spirit.

Second, it appears that you are admitting it is possible to take scripture out of context... to misinterpret it?

The question then is who is taking it out of context?

You might have memorized a lot of scripture, but as to what it all means, I'll go back to the original authorities... The apostles and their successors. To think you are somehow divinely inspired to recognize the truth, along with the other 30,000 who "pretty much agree on everything" is the height of arrogance.

This thread started out as a commentary about the Mass; you interjected a request for a scriptural basis; it was given. We disagree on that interpretation. I agree with the interpretation of the Church as it has been since the beginning; you agree with one that has been around for 500 years or so.

It has been said that Catholics enjoy the meal given us by our Lord almost 2000 years ago, while for the last 500 Protestants have been misreading the menu.

90 posted on 01/05/2009 10:23:06 AM PST by shurwouldluv_a_smallergov
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