A Noachide's response to chr*stianity (Vanity)

Self | 12/22/'08 | Zionist Conspirator

[Zionist Conspirator]

Here you be, though not as well put as in the original, lost version.

Note carefully: my imperfection, and the imperfection of every human being, is not an original discovery of yourself, nor does it in and of itself vindicate your religious beliefs.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I hope I haven’t said anything too terribly stupid.

[mnehring]

That is a tradition of many Jews. It comes from the ancient tradition that the name of God should never be destroyed, thus it is written to not actually have the name of God so it can never be defiled or destroyed. Its original purpose was physical writing but it has become commonplace in all forms of communication and media.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I didn’t read your entire post

I was unaware that I had any emotional investment in your reading this post or not. I suppose I'm heartbroken, then?

because, quite frankly, I have much better things to do.

Go do them. I have absolutely no powers to compel disinterested parties to read posts which are not directed to them in the first place, nor do I want such powers.

[Augustinian monk]

“I will call upon my own prior beliefs as a Fundamentalist Protestant to lay out this “big picture” so that, whether the reader agrees or disagrees, he will understand”

Were you born a gentile?

[ArrogantBustard]

I will simply note that, although they differ somewhat from what I believe as a Christian, your paragraphs beginning "Ultimately ...", and the one following, beginning "You will note ..." are a whole lot more Christian than I think you realize.

FWIW.

Baltimore Catechism:

Q: Why did God make me?

A: To know Him, love Him, and serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him forever in the next.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Were you born a gentile?

I am a gentile.

[Zionist Conspirator]

We disagree about how this service and obedience is to be accomplished. Others (such as I in my youth) rejected the service of G-d altogether as a monstrous self-delusion. Man cannot serve G-d; he can only be passively saved by G-d. Any human activity or participation vitiated the entire concept.

I know, you find it strange (as do I now), but I still find it beautifully consistent (as I still do not find the ancient churches).

[mnehring]

Q: Why did God make me? A: To know Him, love Him, and serve Him in this world, and to be happy with Him forever in the next.

Isn't this a little 'creating God in man's image?' With this, are we projecting man's emotional and ego needs onto God? Does God need to be loved? Does God need to be served? Does that need project a gap in God's being that needs to be filled? IMHO (with emphasis on the humble part)..

[ArrogantBustard]

I never said He “needs” any of those things, nor did the BC. In fact, the idea of God “needing” anything (as in not having it but requiring it for completeness) is absurd.

OTOH, He can and does choose to do whatever it is that He chooses to do for whatever reasons, that are beyond our comprehension. The BC answer does not pretend to be complete. I’ll ad that describing eternity in the present tense is itself inadequate, but it’s the best English has to offer.

[ArrogantBustard]

I don’t find FP theology strange ... I just disagree with it.

As for the inconsistency you see in the ancient Churches ... I guess I don’t see it.

[ArrogantBustard]

Please communicate

[Alex Murphy]

The Torah foretells periods of destruction and exile when the sacrifices cannot be offered (these are always punishments for abandoning the Torah, not for "rejecting the messiah"). And when the real Mashiach comes it will not be subject to debate but a fact that no one on earth will be able to deny. So long as we're debating, then he hasn't come.

Ping to read (again) later

[El Cid]

Merry Christmas!

[wombtotomb]

:) 26 words that equal the whole truth about that pesky question and answer. I have one on my shelf as well. Used it in my kids homeschooling.

[ROTB]

>I hope I haven’t said anything too terribly stupid.

Welcome to the club! ;)

[ROTB]

BTTT

[Col Freeper]

Interesting post.

Between your post, ROTB’s previous thread, and the various comments by other posters, I had to spend some time researching various terms and their definitions. LOL

I had no idea (and had never heard) what a Noachide was before your post.

Also, having read both threads and all of the comments fully, I was impressed that it had a bare minimum of flames.