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To: Erskine Childers
Just as one must already be a Jew (or a Noachide) to believe that the Torah is preeminent.

You really insist on continuing this argument forever? That's your prerogative.

The Torah was given on Mt. Sinai and was recognized as the Word of G-d before chr*stianity ever existed. The claims of chr*stianity, and of any other alleged "higher" revelation, must be measured against the criteria (if any) set by previously recognized revelation. It can't come simply out of the air, however "poetic" it seems.

I have long observed that Catholics invariably attempt to prove the falsity of Protestantism by simply pointing out that Catholicism is older. If you're going to pull the chronological argument out with the Prots, it's inconsistent to suddenly shelve it with regard to Judaism. And if the chronological argument is fallacious when offered by Judaism, then Catholics are going to have to stop invoking it in their argument with Protesants.

Chodesh tov.

94 posted on 12/26/2008 10:38:50 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The Torah was given on Mt. Sinai and was recognized as the Word of G-d before chr*stianity ever existed.

Again, you must have faith to believe this. Faith in the Torah is as much a leap of faith as is faith in Christ. Do you see this point?

The claims of chr*stianity, and of any other alleged "higher" revelation, must be measured against the criteria (if any) set by previously recognized revelation.

Christ is not a "higher" revelation. It is in fact precisely the same revelation, since Jesus = Torah. Do you see this point?

It can't come simply out of the air, however "poetic" it seems.

Faith in Torah is as ethereal as faith in Christ. The both are based purely on faith in a devine revelation. Neither can be either proved or disproved using deduction. They both arise out of thin air, as it were. Do you see this point?

I have long observed that Catholics invariably attempt to prove the falsity of Protestantism by simply pointing out that Catholicism is older.

You are again betraying your ignorance of traditional Christianity. Catholicism makes no such claim. "We are older, therefore we are right?" St. Thomas Aquinas would have sent you to the back of the class for that non sequitur.

One question: why do you put a "*" in place of the "i" in the word "christianity"?

95 posted on 12/26/2008 12:03:09 PM PST by Erskine Childers
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