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To: Erskine Childers
No, you in fact stated that Paul taught that the universe was created so that "Israel could observe the Torah." Here's the exchange:

You: The universe was created so Israel could observe the Torah (it is not a temporary "schoolmaster" to prepare the way for the Messiah).

Me: That certainly isn't a Christian belief.

I assumed you were denying that it was a chr*stian belief that the Torah was a "temporary schoolmaster to prepare the way for the messiah."

You: Funny. That's what your apostle Paul said.

By which I meant "your apostle Paul said that the Torah was a temporary schoolmaster to pave the way for the messiah."

I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing why this is so hard for you to understand.

76 posted on 12/22/2008 7:48:11 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I assumed you were denying that it was a chr*stian belief that the Torah was a "temporary schoolmaster to prepare the way for the messiah."

Okay, then please show me where Paul says that the Torah is a temporary schoolmaster for the messiah. I am unaware of any such statement by Paul, but I'd be pleased to hear what you have to say.

What Paul and the rest of the Church always held from the time of Jesus until today was and is that Jesus was precisely the Torah. They quite literally equal each other. JESUS = TORAH. Using simple substitution of equal terms, for Christians you're suggesting that "Paul taught that Jesus was a temporary schoolmaster for Jesus," which is obviously absurd.

If you don't understand that much, you obviously misunderstand fundamentally Christian basic doctrine. I repeat that you should first comprehend what traditional Christians actually believe before you start opining on the subject.

82 posted on 12/23/2008 8:29:43 PM PST by Erskine Childers
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