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To: Erskine Childers
Perhaps the central tenet of Christianity is that Jesus is the Torah.

Perhaps it is. But it's wrong.

The universe was created so Israel could observe the Torah (it is not a temporary "schoolmaster" to prepare the way for the Messiah).

That certainly isn't a Christian belief.

Funny. That's what your apostle Paul said.

The idea that Christ died as ransom for our sins is from the very beginning.

Fundamentalist Protestants reject "ransom" in favor of "vicarious damnation," a development of Anselm's substitutionary atonement theory. It is because of this idea that Chr*st's vicarious damnation makes all human behavior (for good or evil) of no consequence that forms the basis of all antinomian "faith only" Protestantism, and this is the reason such people reject the eternal validity of the Torah. It is such a person who began this thread and to whom I was replying.

41 posted on 12/22/2008 7:23:59 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
That certainly isn't a Christian belief.

Funny. That's what your apostle Paul said.

I am unaware of such an utterance by St. Paul, who says quite clearly that the universe was created for Jesus:

“For in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible … all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together” (Col. 1:16-17).

To what scripture do you refer?

49 posted on 12/22/2008 10:01:23 AM PST by Erskine Childers
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