"No serious Catholic would contend that churchmen were right in every decision they made. While Catholics believe that the Church will maintain the faith in its integrity until the end of time, that spiritual guarantee in no way implies that every action of the popes and the episcopate is beyond reproach. To the contrary, Catholics distinguish between the holiness of the Church as an institution guided by the Holy Spirit and the inevitable sinful nature of men, including the men who serve the church.(How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.) Thomas E. Woods Jr.
In other words: The Catholic Church is a hospital for sinners.
Post 9 - Excellent retort on your part. I maintain that the Church is infallible, yet it's members, clerical and laical alike, being human are not.
And thanks for this thread. Will order copy of book tomorrow.