[Truth Defender]

But even supposing the notion of invisible church has any connection to historical Christianity, — it doesn’t — what do you have against civilization?

I don't think anyone has anything against civilization. The idea that the church is "invisible" is ridiculous to the extreme. The people are the "ekklesia", the "church", and they are not "invisible" by any stretch of the imagination. The "institutions" are not the "church", but simply the gathering of those brought under its sway and governance - be it through rules, dogma or doctrine, or through the officers of the institution, especially the one who is raised on a pedestal to be the "head" of the group.

It is a shame that adherents of a "group" psychology give praise and glory to an institution rather than limiting their praise and glory to God and His Christ (His Messiah, His "anointed" One).

[GonzoII]

“It is a shame that adherents of a “group” psychology give praise and glory to an institution”
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The Church is not an institution; it is the body of Christ.

Col:1:24:
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church: (DRV)

[annalex]

I don't think anyone has anything against civilization.

So don't attack its primary builder because of some post-reformation ecclesiological nonsense.