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To: GonzoII

When confronted by irifutable and non - nonconformational fact, the church had to accessise to science, this has been done for at least the last 2 or 3 hundredd years, back in the old days the Church put on house arrest Galilieo, one guy. No The Catholic church is no favorite of mine, but I think they learned thier lesson.
But No, I reject the authors claim, The church was used as a litmus test, And that test rejected a whole heaping amount of knowledge, lots of western Civ from the Greeks and others went Bye Bye thanks to the Catholic church, They did have an agenda, it was based upon doctrine, later it would be challanged, many times, in the end nowadays the Catholics want you to know they’re hip. I don’t buy it at all.
I got nothing against catholic persons except the church has done away with more goofy rules in the last 40 to 400 years than you can shake a stick at. I mean really, dose God care what I eat? and when? Stupid, no wonder thay flow with the wind. I say stick to the word, but what do I know?


3 posted on 12/21/2008 6:48:24 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: ChetNavVet
And it's clear from your writing style that you have developed those opinions over years of serious academic study.

I'm guessing - Ph.D?

4 posted on 12/21/2008 6:53:39 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: ChetNavVet
"the word"

Mt:17:21: But this kind is not cast out but by prayer and fasting.

Lk:2:37: And she was a widow until fourscore and four years: who departed not from the temple, by fastings and prayers serving night and day. (DRV)

5 posted on 12/21/2008 7:00:22 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: ChetNavVet
What might have these "goofy rules" been?
And your claim of bearing no malice to the Catholic Church is not very convincing.
11 posted on 12/21/2008 7:39:57 AM PST by jla (Sarah!)
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To: ChetNavVet
And that test rejected a whole heaping amount of knowledge, lots of western Civ from the Greeks and others went Bye Bye thanks to the Catholic church,

This is false. Who do you think was copying Aristotle, Vergil, Livy, all that? Very very few actual texts survive from antiquity--most of what we have is medieval recopies by monks. The record of the monasteries in preserving the literature of antiquity from the barbarian onslaughts is well known.

Second of all, if the Church "had an agenda" that made it miss some scientific discoveries, then what kind of agenda did Fred Hoyle and all the atheists have who believed in the erroneous "steady state" theory in the mid-1900s? They criticized FATHER Georges Lemaitre and others for the Big Bang theory--which they said smacked too much of Genesis. I have yet to see them called on the carpet for that. But it's true--their a priori atheism interfered with their science.

17 posted on 12/21/2008 8:21:36 AM PST by Claud
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To: ChetNavVet

I had the pleasure of reading this book a few years ago. You raise an interesting point about Galileo. If you gave the book a shot, you’d learn the part of the story you apparently never heard.


18 posted on 12/21/2008 8:24:19 AM PST by RIRed
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To: ChetNavVet
[does] God care what I eat? and when?

Of course. If you love someone you care about what the loved one eats and when.

Fasting is a very good way to connect with God. John the Baptist fasted (Mt. 3:4). Jesus fasted because He needed to confront Satan (Mt 4:2). He advised us to do the same (Mt 17:20).

It is very unfortunate that the Church relaxed the requirement for the Eucharistic fast. But it is not hard to correct. I do not eat on Sunday before I come to Mass, wich, given our circumstances means that I don't get to eat till about 3pm on Sunday. I abstain from meat on Fridays. If people followed the fasting and abstinence requirements of old, we would not need the Nutrisystem.

You seem to know very little about what the Church teaches and why. This forum is a good place to find out about Catohlicism. Please, stick around.

30 posted on 12/21/2008 10:49:23 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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But No, I reject the authors claim

It is logically impossible to reject an author's claim without reviewing his argument. Have you read his book? If you are a champion of West civ, then at least honor the reason of the Greeks. You can easily get the book at a library. (If your local library does not have it, they will probably have an inter-library loan service.) Or buy it from Amazon or your favorite bookstore.

what do I know?

That is a very good question. That is essentially the question Socrates kept asking. So keep asking it. You may eventually get the answer.

46 posted on 12/21/2008 1:39:00 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: ChetNavVet
Time for you to do some much needed reading, gomer.

Twisting the Knife
How Galileo Brought His Troubles with the Church on Himself

56 posted on 12/21/2008 4:14:08 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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