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To: gulfcoast6; TaraP; RJR_fan; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy
May I suggest a book to read? GLOBAL WARNING by Tim LaHaye and Ed Hinson. This no doubt the best book I have ever read on the second coming and where we stand in this event.

This is an excellent book if you already accept the futurist agenda hook, line, and sinker. It makes current events come alive because it is written from the perspective of … well, current events.

Serious Bible students be warned. Lots more of the same old same old, just with a new cover.

Under the heading of “Where are we now?” they write, “What is now more clear than ever is that we have taken a quantum leap toward the fulfillment of the biblical prophecy of the last days. The stage is now being set for the final climatic act in the long history of the human drama. Things could not have been arranged more perfectly for the fulfillment of the prophecies of the end times” (p. 56)

“More clear than ever?” No wonder Chuck Smith, Hal Lindsey and Edgar Whisenant got it all wrong in the 1970s. Current events were not clear enough. Oh, sure. They had the Soviets Union to work with. What an ominous boogeyman?! But the Soviets are gone bye-bye. Then there was the Chinese with their phantom army of 200 million on horseback waiting to cross the Euphrates. Oops, turns out there are no enough horses in the entire world to field such an army.

The eschatological futurist boogeymen of the 1970s have been replaced with the eschatological boogeymen of this decade. No doubt they will change again in 10 or 20 years.

Perhaps LaHaye and Hinson have fixed all those mistakes.

81 posted on 12/17/2008 9:46:52 AM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54

Where is your scriptual evidence to your statements?

Jesus is coming back to set his Millenial Kingdom up in Israel. he spoke of the Jews and Diaspora....

THe Anti-Christ will sign a 7 yr Peace treaty with Israel.

This could not happen before 1948 so it is Biblical Scripture.


83 posted on 12/17/2008 11:01:09 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Seperation of Church and State)
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To: topcat54; gulfcoast6; TaraP; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy
The eschatological futurist boogeymen of the 1970s have been replaced with the eschatological boogeymen of this decade. No doubt they will change again in 10 or 20 years.

When God kindly, sovereignly, and graciously discredited Soviet communism, I saw no signs of gratitude from those embittered die-hard failures, the futurists. Instead, they frantically began searching heaven and earth to find other boogeymen to cower/grovel before.

This ingratitude, this contempt for God's mercies, has pretty well discredited the fortune-tellers.

At this point in history, the Gospel has several major-league opponents. The ones we have to deal with are secular humanism, and Islam. The vast majority of Christians are already compromised, and "in bed with" secular humanism. Which might explain why there's more of a market for excuses than there is for solutions. After all, if God Himself has already ordained that the future belongs to antichrist, why not send our kids to antichristian schools, in order to prepare them for antichrist's world? The people of faith and hope, however, do not support public education. They undermine secular humanism by starving it of the one resource it craves above all others, the hearts, minds, souls, and bodies of our children.

Question: Suppose God dealt with Islam as swiftly and decisively as He dealt with Soviet communism. Would we be ready for that opportunity? In 1945, Douglas MacArthur begged America to send 10,000 missionaries to Japan. What he got was engineers. The opportunity was squandered, and today Japan is one of the most secular nations on earth. We did a little better when the Soviet bloc fell. Our missionaries hit the streets of Kiev at about the same time as the pornographers.

Let me make a prediction. Unlike our friends the doomsayers, cowardly spies, and fortune tellers, I am NOT willing to write off a billion of our fellow creatures. I AM praying for the fall of Islam. And taking steps to organize my life, studies, and actions in term of those hopes.

My prediction

When Islam falls, many Christians of faith and courage (i.e. -- post-millenial) will be ready, with a grasp on the Christian world view, and on the language and culture of a Muslim society. The doomsayers will miss the door of opportunity, and start trying to cobble together another boogeyman to cower/grovel before. Fortunately for the gospel, the cause of Christ, the glory of God, and the blessings of humanity, there will probably be a lot fewer of these disgraceful ingrates.
84 posted on 12/17/2008 11:45:33 AM PST by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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