To: TaraP
Do you think the Father is waiting on us? rather than us waiting on him to return to earth?Let's see what Scripture has to say. The OT chapter most frequently quoted or cited or echoed in the NT is Psalm 110. For example, see I Cor. 15:25-28:
- 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
- 15:26 The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.
- 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
Bottom line: Jesus is reigning now, from the Father's right hand, in, through, and for the Church. He will continue leading us from victory to victory, until there is only one enemy remaining, death.
THEN, not before, comes the end. The bodily return of our Lord, and the resurrection of our bodies.
Every other enemy needs to bite the dust first. At this point in history, I still see too many butts that need to be kicked. The prevalence of the scatological ends indicates the remoteness of the eschatological end. 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
22 posted on
12/16/2008 9:50:48 AM PST by
RJR_fan
(Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
To: RJR_fan
Bottom line: Jesus is reigning now, from the Father's right hand, in, through, and for the Church. He will continue leading us from victory to victory, until there is only one enemy remaining, death. THEN, not before, comes the end. The bodily return of our Lord, and the resurrection of our bodies. Every other enemy needs to bite the dust first. At this point in history, I still see too many butts that need to be kicked. The prevalence of the scatological ends indicates the remoteness of the eschatological end. 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Excellent post, RJR_fan. You beat me to it!
26 posted on
12/16/2008 9:56:33 AM PST by
Alex Murphy
( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
To: RJR_fan
However Jesus said: Unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved..
So we know the earth will continue to get worse as we are suffering the birth pains of a fallen world currently.
Since we have overcome death by the Blood of the Lamb, haven’t we (Believers) already achieved *Victory*?
27 posted on
12/16/2008 9:57:39 AM PST by
TaraP
(A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
To: RJR_fan
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He will continue leading us from victory to victory, until there is only one enemy remaining" Try looking through the scriptures for support for that theory; it isn't there. The Lord's victories will be his own, not through men.
29 posted on
12/16/2008 10:01:19 AM PST by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: RJR_fan
And with so many many thousand of Jews who do not recognize the Messiah from there Torah and have been presented a Jesus they do not recognize due to persecution over thousand of years, what determines there conversion?
34 posted on
12/16/2008 10:07:59 AM PST by
TaraP
(A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
To: RJR_fan
Every other enemy needs to bite the dust first. At this point in history, I still see too many butts that need to be kicked. Do you see any that have been kicked??? Looks like Jesus is off to a pretty slow start to butt kicking and putting His enemies under His feet...
40 posted on
12/16/2008 10:23:51 AM PST by
Iscool
(I don't understand all that I know...)
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