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Posted on 12/15/2008 12:20:45 PM PST by STD
WE CAN KNOW THE DAY
"THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK... SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE" THAT'S CHESHVAN 17
JESUS SAID, "TAKE YE HEED: BEHOLD, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS" (Mark 13:23)
I'm no prophet, but it now seems that Jesus himself gave us the last clue we need a long time ago. It's so plain in Matthew 24, I don't know why I didn't get it before this. I knew it was in Scripture, but I looked everywhere but the right place, in plain view. I should have known that in plain view was the best place to hide something. What threw me off was Mt. 24:36, where Jesus said, "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man". After so many reminded me of that so many times, I skimmed over what followed it.
Look what he said in verse 42: "Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY.
In case we missed it, he even repeated it. in verse 44, he said, "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR as ye think not the Son of man cometh." HE LEFT OUT THE DAY.
That means that in between verses 36 and 44, Jesus revealed the DAY, Cheshvan 17, "THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK." The wise virgins are not in the dark as to the DAY, just the hour. The foolish virgins don't know the day or the hour. Jesus put the day in plain view. I have read it over and over without realizing that in verses 42 and 44, he didn't say DAY AND HOUR, only HOUR (hora).
Mt. 24:32-45 (KJV) says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, which she was in 1967), and putteth forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, Golen Heights, West Bank, in the Six-Day War of 1967), ye know that summer is nigh (the war started June 5; summer arrived June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it ('the kingdom of God', Luke 21:31) is near, even at the DOORS (symbol of the Raptures, as in Rev. 3:8, 4:1). Verily (amen, so be it, firm, trustworthy) I say unto you, This generation (i.e., those born in 1967) shall not pass (1967 + 48 = 2015), till all these things (i.e., both Raptures) be fulfilled."
It looks like the 2nd Rapture will be in 2015 (Tishri 1, 5776). The 1st Rapture will be 7 years before that, i.e., in 5769. This year started on Tishri 1, 5769 (Sept. 30, 2008). I thought the 1st Rapture would be that day, but I had something else to learn, and that is found in this passage of Scripture. Read on.
Continuing in Mt. 24, the Olivet Discourse, Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until THE DAY THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK (Cheshvan 17), And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. Then (tote, at the same time, i.e., on Cheshvan 17, 5769; November 15, 2008) shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR (hora) your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR (hora) as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in DUE SEASON (kairos, set time)?"
Lev 26:2-4 says, "Ye shall keep my SABBATHS, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; Then I WILL GIVE YOU RAIN IN DUE SEASON, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees (i.e., nations) of the field (i.e., world) shall yield their FRUIT."
We are called a kind of firstfruits. James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."
Cheshvan 17, 5769 (Nov. 15, 2008) is on Saturday, the Sabbath. It looks like we will go to Shabbatai (Saturn, the 3rd Heaven; II Cor. 12:2, and the 7th planet) on Shabbat (the 7th day).
IN MARK, THE PORTER DOESN'T KNOW THE HOUR, BUT HE KNOWS THE DAY
Mark 13:33-37 says, "Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time (kairos, set time, due time) is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. WATCH YE THEREFORE: FOR YE KNOW NOT WHEN THE MASTER OF THE HOUSE COMETH, AT EVEN, OR AT MIDNIGHT, OR AT THE COCKCROWING, OR IN THE MORNING: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." At even, midnight, cockcrowing, or morning is describing the hour. The porter already knows the day.
THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND RAPTURE
Luke 17:28-30 says, "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed."
The Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky as the Day of God's Wrath begins. He will be sitting on his throne, because the judgment will be made at the Judgment Seat of Christ that day. The Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place just before God's Wrath hits Earth. Again, we can figure out the day, but not the hour. There will be a Solar Eclipse a little past 6 PM on our previous day, when this Jewish day starts. I think it will be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). It can't be later than 2015, because 1967 + 48 (Mt. 1:17) = 2015.
The Six-Day War of 1967 was the Sign of the End of the Age. It could not be later than 1967, because that was the last year 19-year-old Israel could be called young.
That day, Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, seems locked in place. The Sign of the End of the Age was the Six-Day War of 1967. It couldn't be later than that, because Israel was 19, the last year her branch (klados, a young tender shoot, broken off for grafting) could be considered tender (apalos, soft, tender, i.e., young). A generation from that year is the end of the age. The longest we can count as a generation is 48 years (Mt. 1:17). 1967 + 48 = 2015.
Revelation 8 - The First Four TrumpetsSince heaven is a place of constant praise and worship to God (Revelation 4:8-11 ) silence for about half an hour....Silence for a half hour might be the Sun being quiet (No sunspots)
If GOD sends a deception to people it might be the End of the World prophecy of the Maya Calendar which ends in 2012 12/21/2012 or it could be the rapture mid-point which does give 2015 some credibility.
Have you ever considered writing a commentary on Revelation or something? You have a touch that is simply.... masterful when interpreting these texts. I have never seen anything quite like it.
Which is....?
God pronounces curses upon those who practice divination and fortune telling. How must He feel when would=be teachers use His Word as a ouija board, a tool for divination — in order to discourage His people?
2nd rapture? Folks are having a hard enough time keeping one rapture straight and now they are talking about a 2nd one? Where did this 2nd rapture come from?
I hadn’t noticed.
SCRIPTURE
says it will be the worst time than ever has been or ever will be.
Doesn’t sound like a cake-walk to me regardless of who’s experiencing it.
You have a nice evening ...
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HP, in the calculator heyday, made an RPN handheld for that, that was way faster than the standard algebraic rapture predictor.
Not needed - you've already seen mine.
“Cheshvan 17, 5769 (Nov. 15, 2008) is on Saturday, the Sabbath. It looks like we will go to Shabbatai (Saturn, the 3rd Heaven; II Cor. 12:2, and the 7th planet) on Shabbat (the 7th day).”
Based on what Scripture says regarding the Sabbath, the day G*d rested, I would think that the event would occur on another day.
Please show me where the tribulation period is 7 years. Revelation has no 7 year period only 3.5 years. In your reference in Matt 24 Christ said that no stone would stand of the temple so something must happen for the last of the wall to fall so until that time I would not get my bowls in a uproar or and underwear in a wringer.
Truthfully, Jesus is sitting on the throne of peace and He shall come again. Marilyn knows more than any ten phonies that seek books etc,,,. She has never claimed in this material that she's anything more than an old women working her butt off to save souls. Alex, it's intellectual laziness, but don't flame me if you won't read the post. FReepers don't whine until they have taken the time to study the material and articles posted first.
Perhaps, but I strongly suspect Marilyn doesn't know Deuteronomy 18:20-22.
When His life among humankind was over Jesus said in the Revelation of Jesus the Christ was complete and prophecy has ceased.
Are you saying that Jesus has changed the standards, and prophecy doesn't need to have a 1.000 batting average anymore?
So what? Where does this proclivity to suggest dates come from? Certainly it does not come from the Word of God. Jesus never told His disciples to go about suggesting dates for His return. The only alternative is to believe in secret knowledge where God allegedly speaks things to just some people. Then when they do not come true and miss the mark badly, we hear, “Oh well, it was only a suggestion. No harm no foul.” It gets to be like the little boy who cried wolf. No one takes it seriously and, in actuality, it’s a form of blasphemy that defames the Name of Christ.
That could be. However, that is something we don't know for certain - just as no one, period, knows the day and hour that Jesus will return to raise the dead. My point, if you have not caught it, is that it is folly to debate dates when He returns.
Hey—Christians...He loves you...He’s coming back to get us someday. How and when He does it really isn’t what we’re supposed to be about. I believe Jesus told us what true religion is, and it’s not ‘figuring out the second coming mystery.’ I believe His words were “caring for orphans and widows in their affliction.” Let’s do that, okay?
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
I don’t know what that is...
I meant 7 yrs not 5.
But any’ways I am going to post a Vanity Post on the return of Jesus and I would like to hear what you have to say about it.
Well said.
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