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Are Focus [On The Family] layoffs a sign of losing edge among evangelicals?
The Gazette ^ | December 7, 2008 | BRIAN NEWSOME

Posted on 12/07/2008 7:40:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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1 posted on 12/07/2008 7:40:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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**Are Focus [On The Family] layoffs a sign of losing edge among evangelicals?**

I certainly hope not!


2 posted on 12/07/2008 7:56:01 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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**Like virtually any sector, churches and charities are suffering, she said, and they tend to keep little money in contingency for a rainy day.**

Or is this the reason?


3 posted on 12/07/2008 7:57:58 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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FotF is a creepy place. That's the only way I can describe it.

I was told that if management found out I was LDS I would be fired. Employees are forced to go to religious devotionals. You have no choice, you have to go. That's policy.

Lots of other stuff...

I'm glad I don't work there anymore.
4 posted on 12/07/2008 8:03:42 PM PST by Stourme
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To: Salvation

Maybe it’s like Harvard, which has seen a 30% drop in endowments because of the stock market/ investments/ hedge funds. (I know NOTHING about finances ....) Personally, I think if you don’t put your money where your mouth is, what kind of Christianity is that? We MUST be involved in the marketplace.


5 posted on 12/07/2008 8:11:06 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: Stourme

Forgive me but I do not understand why you would not freely disclose that your are LDS, regardless of the consequences.


6 posted on 12/07/2008 8:21:56 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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I was told that if management found out I was LDS I would be fired. Employees are forced to go to religious devotionals. You have no choice, you have to go. That's policy.

When one works for a religious based organization, one should not be surprised that the organization expects its employees to buy into its beliefs. Nothing creepy about that.

You think the Mormon church hires non-Mormons for positions related to Mormon theology?

7 posted on 12/07/2008 8:22:01 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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“...but they associate Focus with a harsh tone, a militant stance, a cultural-warrior kind of approach to public life that they’re definitely turning away from.”

This guy doesn’t know God’s justice. If he knew that God doesn’t accept everyone, even people who do miracles in His name, he wouldn’t be so easy going. I love fire and brimstone preachers of truth. Not many around anymore.


8 posted on 12/07/2008 8:23:04 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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Has its high-profile political stances hurt its public relations? Is its audience aging or shrinking? Did it reach a peak that, for some reason, has passed?

Are they writing about the NYTimes? (/sarc)

9 posted on 12/07/2008 8:23:26 PM PST by Dawn531
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“...The truth is, a lot of young evangelicals probably have more agreement with Focus on the Family than have disagreement, but they associate Focus with a harsh tone, a militant stance, a cultural-warrior kind of approach....”
— Patton Dodd, senior editor at (secular Murdoch-owned) Fox-owned Beliefnet.com


Mr. Dodd....

Important principles may and must be inflexible. — Abraham Lincoln


10 posted on 12/07/2008 8:25:59 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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A Christian organization has the right to hire Christian people who practive the Christian religion.

And to you, that’s creepy?


11 posted on 12/07/2008 8:36:48 PM PST by earlJam
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To: Salvation
I certainly hope not!

It might be true, at least among the newer generation of self-professed evangelicals. Consider this section of the article:

Patton Dodd is senior editor at Fox-owned Beliefnet.com, the Web's largest religion and spirituality site. Dodd lives in Colorado Springs and has been very involved with New Life Church over the years.

"I'm 34. I don't know anyone my age or younger that are paying much attention to Focus on the Family in the evangelical world.

The New Life Church connection worries me. So this mover-and-shaker knows no one at that church who pays attention to Dobson? That's the same church that was once pastored by Ted Haggard, who was also the President of the National Association of Evangelicals! Consider that this organization championed the "global warming" cause while Ted was running it. And just this month, the NAE's Chief Lobbyist has come out in favor of gay marriage.

I have to wonder about the spiritual direction being taken by Beliefnet, and by New Life Church.

12 posted on 12/07/2008 9:00:47 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: SeaHawkFan
FotF isn't a church. It's a non-profit that hires full time employees and contractors.

Contractors are not required to disclose any religious affiliation.

Being forced to go to a religious service or face dismissal is creepy in my book.
13 posted on 12/07/2008 9:39:34 PM PST by Stourme
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Because I wasn’t asked.


14 posted on 12/07/2008 9:41:02 PM PST by Stourme
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To: SeaHawkFan
You think the Mormon church hires non-Mormons for positions related to Mormon theology?

and... ya know I keep looking for that "Mormon church" and still haven't found it yet... I have yet to see it on a sign post...
15 posted on 12/07/2008 9:43:17 PM PST by Stourme
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ya know I keep looking for that "Mormon church" and still haven't found it yet.

Try clicking on www.mormon.org and you'll go right to it. (And then scroll down to the bottom to see what kind of group would put up a site with that name.

16 posted on 12/07/2008 10:00:33 PM PST by PAR35
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Cool site. But that still doesn’t show me a “Mormon Church”.


17 posted on 12/07/2008 10:51:27 PM PST by Stourme
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To: Stourme
Being forced to go to a religious service or face dismissal is creepy in my book.

No one is forced to attend. A person who chooses to work for a religious organization has no complaint that that organization actually expects adherance o their beliefs and practices.

18 posted on 12/08/2008 1:32:23 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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and... ya know I keep looking for that "Mormon church" and still haven't found it yet... I have yet to see it on a sign post...

Well, have you tried looking up mormon.com? You are apparently the only person in the world who has never heard of the Mormon church. Your church's web site calls it the Mormon church all over the site.

19 posted on 12/08/2008 1:38:50 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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“I’m glad I don’t work there anymore. “

I’m glad you don’t, either.


20 posted on 12/08/2008 3:53:43 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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