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A Literate Church: The state of Catholic Bible study today
America - The National Catholic Weekly ^ | DECEMBER 8, 2008 | David Gibson

Posted on 11/30/2008 8:21:58 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: Alex Murphy

What? No naked priests?

Glad to see the compulsion is branching out.


41 posted on 12/01/2008 5:07:04 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: Natural Law

You make a very good point. In my opinion based on my limited experience—LOL—I think you make the best argument I have ever read regarding the Pope as advocate versus the laity.


42 posted on 12/01/2008 5:07:25 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Natural Law
Okay eyeballing this thread, I am not even going to participate. Each poster seems to have memorized the bible or atleast have such a great mental recall and access that they can banter back and forth with their strong opinions. My engagement with this thread thus far is to read the lovely passages that have been quoted throughout and this one I thought was just beautiful and quite specific and simple. It is one you posted.

John 14:21 Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. And whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and reveal myself to him."

Just wanted to take that one in savor it and hopefully try each moment to live it.

Blessings to all.

43 posted on 12/01/2008 5:15:45 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Truth Defender

Galatians 6:4 -Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else.


44 posted on 12/01/2008 5:35:08 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: GOP Poet
"Just wanted to take that one in savor it and hopefully try each moment to live it."

Remember that the beauty and perfect genius of Christ's words were in their simplicity. His message was to a poor and uneducated population, not to a cast of priests and lawyers. Those that claim to find special meaning and authority in the words and wordsmanship are deceiving themselves. If you accept and live no more than the Beatitudes you will enter the kingdom of heaven.

45 posted on 12/01/2008 5:41:06 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Galatians 6:4 -Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else.

??? What's your point???

46 posted on 12/01/2008 5:53:15 PM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
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To: Truth Defender
"??? What's your point???"

Philippians 2:3 - Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

47 posted on 12/01/2008 7:31:47 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Galatians 6:4 -Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else.

Philippians 2:3 - Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Wise scriptures! And something I always think about. How about you? I do wonder, though, why you saw fit to bring these two verses up. Was it something I said? That's why I question marked it. You did have a point to make, didn't you?

48 posted on 12/01/2008 8:28:40 PM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
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To: Natural Law
Wisdom and brains is a lovely combination. :-) Thanks you so much for you insightful and wise words.

As mentioned blessings to all on the thread. The fact that one engages so intensely with God's word and fights passionately for their understanding of it tells me God has some wonderful warriors still :-). God bless.

49 posted on 12/01/2008 8:51:50 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Truth Defender
"I do wonder, though, why you saw fit to bring these two verses up."

You so quickly challenged my faith and so quickly defended yours. Is it possible to have so little faith that one chooses to not test it for fear it will not stand? Have faith, the Word of God will stand up to the most intense challenges.

James 1:

2- Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds,

3- because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.

4- Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

50 posted on 12/02/2008 8:19:14 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
"I do wonder, though, why you saw fit to bring these two verses up."

You so quickly challenged my faith and so quickly defended yours. Is it possible to have so little faith that one chooses to not test it for fear it will not stand? Have faith, the Word of God will stand up to the most intense challenges.

Hmmm....I guess I could say the same to you. My faith is strong and testing it by others only strengthens it. If your faith is strong, it should stand being tested by others, and you should defend it. That is the object in debating and defending the faith one has. The danger lies in the perceived holes in ones faith, and in the way one tries to defend it. If one is not willing to have his/her faith examined then one should not post it in these open forums - for it will be examined and challenged.

None of us are 100% able, in this form of communication and in short spurts, to defend what one believes because what one says can easily be misconstrued by another. One should also remember that one never really learns anything from those with whom he is in agreement with - to learn something one must learn from those with whom he disagrees with.

I, really, don't see that you have actually tested my faith. Nor have I actually tested your faith. It may be that our perspectives are misconstrued by each other :-)

51 posted on 12/02/2008 9:46:59 AM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
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"I, really, don't see that you have actually tested my faith. "

I never intended to test yout faith. I am encouraging you to test your faith, though.

52 posted on 12/02/2008 11:23:06 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
I never intended to test yout faith. I am encouraging you to test your faith, though.

My faith is tested every day - that's why I pray always.

53 posted on 12/02/2008 11:31:24 AM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
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