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To: Safrguns
Reactive on my part... I shouldn’t have said it.

No problem. Don't fret it.

We can't worry about how the world or non-believers will view us.
In Secular Humanism, the world answers the 4 Big Questions of Life like this:
1) Who am I? I am accidental primordial soup, with no inherent value, dignity, or worth.
2) Why am I here? I am here to consume and enjoy.
3) What's wrong with the world? A deficiency in education and a deficiency in governing is what is wrong with the world.
4) How can what is wrong be made right? More education, more governing.

In a Christian Worldview, we would answer like this:
1) Who am I? I am the crown and glory of God's creation with all of my value, dignity, and worth coming from Him.
2) Why am I here? To glorify God and enjoy Him forever by reflecting His image.
3) What's wrong with the world? Me. I don't do what I was created to do.
4) How can what is wrong be made right? By Christ's sacrificial, atoning death on the cross to satisfy the wrath of God against me and thereby allowing my spirit to be reborn of His Spirit and thus start the process of being conformed back to His image.

It is this 4th question that is applicable here. Whether it is a small or big government doesn't matter. Whether it is a Monarch, Democracy, or Communistic doesn't matter. The way the fourth question gets answered has to do with faith that reproduces. That is why I say they don't mix. They have two different purposes.

If we want to change America, save more souls. That's it. If every political office from the President on down to your local City Councilman was a believer, the guy next door to you will still be looking at porn, the lady across the street will still be having an affair, and the teenager living behind you will still be smoking pot.

I'm not saying that we should not get involved and vote for righteous candidates, but we have to understand that is not where the real battle will be one.

19 posted on 11/30/2008 11:59:56 PM PST by uptoolate (Shhh. If you listen real hard, God is speaking to America.)
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To: uptoolate

>>>We can’t worry about how the world or non-believers will view us.

Thats not the issue... its a matter of how non-believers will see Christ. People do have a tendency to judge God by those who claim to know Him. If we parade ourselves to be “better than they”, or in other ways suggest that they cannot come to know Christ until they meet a behavioral standard, They see us as hypocrites and the message of salvation as bogus.

The other thing to note is this... When God’s principles are adhered to, they work for everybody... not just christians. Speaking of government, when a people or nation desires freedom, and models their government after God’s laws and principles, they will thrive.
Perfection is simply not possible in a corrupt world.
God knows that. But what He wants is to win the lost.
If that means turning a free and spoiled society over to socialism to “unspoil” it’s people, He will do that despite the costs to freedom.


20 posted on 12/01/2008 7:16:58 AM PST by Safrguns
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