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To: Islander7
....“abnormal” is not intrinsically bad...really?

Yes, really. Being a genius is abnormal. Having flaming red hair is abnormal. Being 6'5" is abnormal. Being capable of running a four-minute mile is abnormal. All of these things are abnormal, and none of them are intrinsically bad.

That is the sort of ‘thinking’ that emptied mental hospitals in the 70s.

Huh?

What does homosexual desire and drive ensure?

What difference does it make? I'm not arguing that homosexuality is good. I'm just pointing out that to call it so simply on the basis that it isn't normal makes no sense. There is no intrinsic value to normality.

16 posted on 11/23/2008 8:28:16 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum
I wrote: I'm just pointing out that to call it so simply on the basis that it isn't normal makes no sense. There is no intrinsic value to normality.

Obviously, I meant "...to call it bad simply on the basis...

17 posted on 11/23/2008 8:32:42 AM PST by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

Two words are being confused here. ‘rare’ and ‘abnormal’. These are two different words with two different meanings.

Being a genius is rare but it certainly is not considered abnormal.


18 posted on 11/23/2008 8:34:17 AM PST by JosephSmithNAW
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To: NonZeroSum

When i use the word ‘normal’, i use it in this sense

Normal : free from mental disorder
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Normal


19 posted on 11/23/2008 8:41:04 AM PST by JosephSmithNAW
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To: NonZeroSum

“...What difference does it make? I’m not arguing that homosexuality is good. I’m just pointing out that to call it so simply on the basis that it isn’t normal makes no sense. There is no intrinsic value to normality...”

I am simply stating a fact. I not moralizing the subject. There are physical differences in the brains of homosexuals. That is the point of my statement.

Red hair is ‘abnormal’? Pray tell what is ‘normal’ hair color?

You are mixing apples and oranges. There is intrinsic value to normative ranges of biologic function. Ask any diabetic or better yet, hold your breath for 5 minutes. You will quickly learn the intrinsic value of normal levels of carboxyhemoglobin.

Homosexuality is a deviation from normal sexual stimulation. Regardless of any PhD opinion, that is simply common sense. A specie cannot continue to reproduce and exist if all its members practice homosexuality. Other factors may contribute, but the driving force is abnormal brain function.

That does not make these people any less valuable to society nor do they deserve scorn. One of my dearest friends and former supervisor is a retired Marine Officer with 3 combat tours in Nam. He’s also gay; been with the same partner for 20 years. His partner is a scientist with NASA. They are valuable, productive citizens.


25 posted on 11/23/2008 11:03:11 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: NonZeroSum
Ok, lets take the abnormal aspect of homosexual sex out of the equation. Why do you personally think it is wrong?

If the abnormal act itself is not enough to make it wrong, than what is?

26 posted on 11/23/2008 11:49:37 AM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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