Posted on 11/22/2008 2:30:54 PM PST by voiceinthewind
Why the surprise here?
Isn’t Massachusetts largely Catholic?
Don’t they elect John Kerry and Ted Kennedy?
Isn’t Pa made up of mostly Catholics?
Don’t they also vote pro abortionists?
Yes
Sad....very sad.
As always, Fr. Euteneuer has very cogent comments. However, I’m always a little dubious about stories of a time when “Catholic culture” had everyone living devout and virtuous lives.
Catholic writers often seem to believe the 30’s or 40’s were a Golden Age, but in those days of my parents’ childhood, a Protestant could ask a Catholic, “Why are you doing ‘this’?” or “Why do you believe ‘that’?” and get an answer, “My parents said so.”
The Catholic church has been complacent for far too long on the issue of abortion. They have allowed militant pro-abortion politicians to advocate in favor of abortion for decades and they have faced no consequences. Catholic elected officials who advance the abortion agenda should be excommunicated. End of story. I commend the church for being so pro-active at this time re: Obama and the FOCA, but they should not have tolerated such deviation from the culture of life within its ranks for this long. You have to start somewhere though, and there is no time like the present. Nancy Pelosi, Kathleen Sebelius, Claire McCaskill, the Kennedys, and any other pro-abortion Catholics should be excommunicated immediately. The church needs to stand strong on this and not waver as they have.
Thankfully, there are many God-fearing Catholics left in this nation. I wish we had a nation full to the brim with them. Reform of the Catholic Church will be because these faithful Catholics are demanding more than they are currently getting from their Catholic leaders.
Got hyperbole?
The death of the Catholic Church has been greatly exaggerated.
The death of the Catholic Church’s impact on our culture has been greatly exaggerated as well.
With the right leaders in place in the church, one’s that do not tolerate deviation from the culture of life, you could very well be right. I certainly hope and pray that is the case.
Catholic ping!
The Catholic Church traces it’s roots back to St. Peter. I highly doubt the election of American-Idol candidate for a 4-8 year term is going result in the destruction of the RCC.
Jesus said this would happen in the Last Days. We see the church, or member, being Apostates. They lust after the flesh, and forsake God
My reading of the commentary is that Fr. Euteneuer believes that the time for turning a blind eye is gone and we have to step up and live Catholic lives, not CINO lives. I’m happy that he holds the clerical feet to the fire and not just us Joe Catholics. A smaller Catholic church, but stronger?
Sorry to post and run, but toddler grandson is here, and I have to stay a step ahead of him. He wants to help paint the living room...
There was a good show from Father Pavone and Priests for life last night on EWTN. People should watch for this.
As to the article, a number of Catholics are lukewarm. It is grotesque to vote for some of Obama’s platforms. So many Catholics I believe, even with the statements by the Bishops just went on their way as if they are uninformed of the Church’s pro-life stance but this seems to be a backlash and many will take note of this outrage.
Leadership flows down from above.
And dross flows the same way.
I’m praying the cleaning of the stables continues.
There are a LOT of Catholic Democrats besides Kennedy too. Pelosi, Biden, McCaskill just to name a few.
Voting for FOCA should result in immediate excommunication. I think that goes without saying.
This country was founded on Judean/ Christian values. These values have been wiped out beginning in 1963 when they removed prayer from schools. It is the secular Lefts agenda. Many professing Christians say they are but in their actions and deeds show that they are not (Sheep in wolf) clothing etc.....
A Catholic pro-abort politician excommuicates himself automatically, so I’m not sure what the church could do except reprimand the priests who give them communion. If the politician then makes a confession, the “list” would have to be publicly altered. I think it’s easier said than done.
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