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To: erkyl

Look, during the election there was a effigy of Sarah Palin that was hung in San Francisco for weeks. Nothing was said or done. Then two college students hung one in Virginia of Obama. The two kids were arrested in Virginia. The law got involved. Can’t all of you see what’s happening? What about that old woman who got a cross knocked out of her hands and was harrassed and bullied. Were there any arrests there? What about the church in Michigan when the church was stormed by a group of people that interrupted the service. Were there arrests there? What do we have to wait for? The KGB walking into our homes because we have a cross or Bible in our homes and throwing us in brick ovens. What happened in Germany was a gradual movement. That’s what is happening here. Just because Obama was elected president doesn’t mean we have no more rights. What do we do? Hand them everything on a silver platter....


51 posted on 11/17/2008 9:45:52 AM PST by prayerfullywaiting
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First of all, something was said and done about the Sarah Palin effigy. The N. Hollywood mayor went to their house and asked them to take it down, and they did. There were arrests made in the Michigan church incident. Now, if in both instances you're asking if the MSM fairly reported these stories, the answer would be no. Nothing was done by the MSM to protect the interests or the rights of the Christians. Even in the story about this incident in SF, the press makes it sound like the Christians asked for it.

I do not agree Christians should lay down. I don't agree that we should sit back and let the homosexual agenda take over. I think everytime a gay person threatens me or someone I love, I'm going to fight back. But that's me. I refuse to judge others who don't feel that way and want to instead 'forgive' and show mercy. I believe there's room in the Christian world for both.

As Christians, we shouldn't judge the choices of others just because it's not your choice of action. Christ was many things, and we are all one body with many different parts. Let them show Christ's love in the way they choose. If you choose to fight, then get out there and do it. But if we are tearing each other apart because we don't agree with each other on how to reach the lost and the misguided, then we are worse off than them--a least they have a united purpose and support each other in it.

Don't you think there are gays still in the closet, choosing not to fight, but instead to go down a more peaceful path for change? That's why they seem to have so much power--because of their unity of purpose. We still find fault and bicker with one another over issues of insignificance. We study and argue over the scripture and its meaning, and entirely miss the point of Christianity. I think Kierkegaard said it painfully well:

The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand it, we must act accordingly. Take any words in the New Testament and forget everything except pledging yourself to act accordingly. My God, you will say, if I do that my whole life will be ruined. How would I ever get on in the world? Herein lies the real place of Christian scholarship. Christian scholarship is the Church’s prodigious invention to defend itself against the Bible, to ensure that we can continue to be good Christians without the Bible coming too close.

If Christians would stop arguing over the small things and get together and truly ask God to work through us on these big things, the power He would unleash in our nation would engulf the enemy. But until we accept each other, as we are, with our various gifts and callings, I believe God withholds the full impact of His blessing.
64 posted on 11/17/2008 10:22:33 AM PST by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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