Posted on 11/16/2008 12:15:27 PM PST by TaraP
I think you need to back and study some more....make that a lot more!
Exactly right, JaneNC...
I have studied Biblical prophecy since the age of 17... I’m now 47.
We are NOT seeing the beginning of the 70 weeks spoken about in the book of Daniel... known as the seven year tribulation.
1. The removal of Christ’s Church and Bride (believers) must take place first. Yes, there is a rapture.
2. Before the seven year tribulation begins, He comes FOR His Church, and after this seven year period ends, He comes WITH His Church to reign for a thousand years on the earth.
1. At the Rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the Second Coming, (Called the “Second Coming” because it is Christ’s second descent to the earth) believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14).
2. The Rapture will be “secret” and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The Second Coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7; Matthew 24:29-30).
When the Antichrist is revealed, the seven year tribulation begins... no, Obama is NOT the Antichrist.
What we are witnessing now, is the “new world order” emerging... with America losing her position (being dismantled by liberal and socialistic means.) as the world’s leading superpower... Europe will soon be next to hold that position.
Out of which, a Revived Roman Empire will be reborn, and out of which the Antichrist arises.
Hey! I lost that picture when my laptop died. I’m stealing that back!
Beware of the date setters!
The end is described as a woman in travail.... labor pains all things will happen but at a quick pace.
I wish you’d talk to my father,
I can’t get that through his thick head.
For myself, I know that if I pinch my arm and it still hurts, Jesus has *not* returned yet.
A simple but concrete ‘test’.
WE will, will you be with us?
I suspect that it will happen right after the soon-to-be attack on Iran's nuke sites. Their existence is the big impediment to the agreement.
I think these are good threads to run. I grew up some in the Bible Belt and it was cool seeing all of the Bible Prophecy experts. It’s always a fascinating subject. It’s good to be kept up to date on what the latest thinking, even if we are unsure of what they are telling us.
“WE will, will you be with us?”
Nope I refuse to join anyone on a horse especially if his name is Mohammed.
Maybe you can find a chapter on the subject with your word rapture in one of his fabrications.
It’s as bad as the stuff some folks are feeding with this rapture lunacy that doesn’t exist in any Bible I know of but certainly helps a lot of “ministers” when the collection plate goes round.
Sorry that so many have bought into this fallacy, both figuratively and literally.
It’s a SCAM!
Very, very foolish statement.
None of the events described in Rev 4-22, in addition to those described in many OT prophecies, can occur while the Holy Spirit is still ministering here.
There's a scam alright, and it's being perpetrated by the "no rapture" people.
“None of the events described in Rev 4-22, in addition to those described in many OT prophecies, can occur while the Holy Spirit is still ministering here.”
Very, very ignorant statement.
Hardly a logical or coherent to suggest the Bible including Rev 4-22 means that you are going to fly away on a magic horsey with Mohammed or another UFO type journey.
But then again, there were those people that thought wearing certain sneakers and ODing on drugs would lead to their “flying away” to the great mothership in the sky.
It’s true I tell ya, it’s all true.
What is your view on this Prophecy Tribulation Letter?
Garbage.
With all those rainbow colors - - is that a gay site?
Bookmark. Just in case.
I have studied Biblical prophecy since the age of 17... I’m now 47.
Ever read anyone who wasn't a dispensationalist? Just wondering.
The Rapture will be “secret” and instant
Accompanied by the voice of the archangel, and the trumpet of God, which cannot be heard by anybody but Christians.
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I suspect the more conventional dispensational interpretations of the pretrib, premil position assert the Great Tribulation coincides with the final week of the 70 weeks. That final week commencing with the signing of a covenant between Israel and the AntiChrist. The revealing of the AntiChrist occurs at the middle of the 70th week, 3-1/2 weeks into the Great Tribulation when the AntiChrist performs the abomination of desolation.
One plausible mechanism/interpretation of the Rapture is coincident with the removal of the Church immediately prior to the Great Tribulation.
IMHO, the Gog/Magog War precedes the Great Tribulation. If this is the case, then there is about a 7 to 7-1/2 yr period in which the remnants of the war are cleaned up from the land prior to the Great Tribulation. Since Israel won’t have much time in the Great Tribulation to perform the cleaning described in Ezekiel 38/39, I suspect we are at least 15 years out from the 2ndComing.
I suspect also that we are beginning to see efforts to consolidate the new world order into the 10 horns.
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