Posted on 11/12/2008 1:14:45 PM PST by SmithL
That isn’t what was meant though it is the response I expected.
This nation is rapidly heading toward disaster because it has turned from God and the principles and ideals He inspired in those who founded it. A majority of the populace thinks that abortion in one form or another is OK. A majority is slowly forming that will support the destruction of traditional marriage. We are about to install a government that will have no qualms at all about further marginalizing and maybe criminalizing all churches that teach anything approaching actual religion. Depravity in every form multiplies across the country in every community.
And “Christians” want to spend their time trashing each other over doctrinal differences. This is idiocy of a high order. The house is burning to the ground and the people who dwell there are fighting about how long the hose is, its color, what kind of nozzle it should take, whether a hose will work at all or that it might ruin the carpeting if we get it wet.
One reason the secular left has won and continues to win is that those in opposition to them spend nearly as much time attacking one another as they do fighting their mortal enemies on the left.
Stupidity doesn’t begin to describe this.
When did support for the institution of marriage between an man and woman become an "extremist" religious view?
Lorri L. Jean is using Saul Alinsky techniques. She is pushing forward the lie that traditional religious teaching is "extreme". Eventually, the American public will come to believe this lie. Eventually, Americans will view all Christianity as "extreme".
They would kill Christians and Mormons if they could. They just can't get away with it,.....(yet).
Hear Hear!!!
I have no idea what you are talking about. If you don’t think Mormons are Christians, that is fine, but there are over 300 other Christian denominations that don’t agree with you about everything in the Bible and Christian history. So, why all of you “real Christians” are preaching to each other and telling each other why the other one is going to hell, the Mormons are out there sticking up for and spending their money on supporting Christian values.
Also, what is with all of the astrics?
1. There aren’t many Mormons as the other groups.
2. They’re almost entirely white, conservative, gun loving, patriotic - you know, the stereotypical evil American /sarc
3. Started as a cult, so easier to target
4. By making Prop 8 supporters look like the bigger tent version of FLDS nuts, it shoots down all traditional marriage supporters.
It really depends which end of the soft boild egg they tap at breakfast time...
(appologies to Mr. Swift)
Politics is one thing, and Christian teaching and doctrine is something completely different. That’s why I made that distinction between politics and Christian teaching.
The article commented about so-called “intolerance” in regards to the Mormons. And in making that distinction between politics and Christian doctrine — you’ll find no “intolerance” from those other (Christian) groups in regards to Gay Marriage — when they act in the political sphere.
The problem comes about (and which that article writer was trying to “lump in with politics”) — when it is in the Christian doctrines and teachings “sphere”. That’s where the word “intolerance” comes up and it’s *legitimate* for Christian to “make distinctive” the historic, basic and foundational teachings of the Christian Church, over the centuries in the *prime area* of salvation. This is where the Mormon Church is totally off-base in regards to this *prime area* (i.e, of salvation). This is also where the other Christian churches are all together with each other.
The Gospel Message of Salvation is the primary command of Jesus Christ to His followers.
So, in “politics” you’ll find the basic, historical, foundation and true Christians (in their teaching and doctrines) are right up there with any other political group in fighting against Gay Marriage.
With matters of the teachings of the church and the Salvation of Jesus Christ — it is a completely different matter.
Star Traveler’s style... :-)
It’s ok to vote based on the religion of liberalism, but not on the basis of any other set of beliefs.
I will stand with the LDS on this one, as the gays really have a conflict with all religions which oppose homosexuality.
Should be directed at black churches.
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Wow! (Can you say, "Assume City?")
Now we've gone from FREEPERS...
...not only reading the minds of fellow church members of other FREEPERS...
...to some supposed psychic ability you have of reading these church members' palms as well -- to determine if those palms reached into their wallets or not to support Prop 8.
(Pray tell, how do you manage to do that? Do you have your own personal urim & thummim?)
Hmm...sounds a lot like you've just spent your time trashing (other?) Christians...over your doctrinal difference of how they spend their time. (Ya wanna explain how your trash-talkin' time trumps theirs?)
Thanks for your sane post. The image of the Council of Elrond in The Fellowship of the Rings movie comes to mind.
She is pushing forward the lie that traditional religious teaching is “extreme”.
It works in Canada.
Coming soon to a Human Rights Commission near you....
That poem by the priest written during the holocaust came to mind when I read this article.
Modern version: First they came for the Mormons.
Are you bashing people who disagree with Mormonism? (I agree with the Mormons on Prop 8)
Every religion considers their religion to be the best and most perfect definition of God's will. That's sort of the point of having a separate religion.
Yeah, but not "every religion" enshrines within it as "new Scripture" an open condemnation of every other church as apostates (all as apostates): Here's said Mormon "scripture": I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt..." (Joseph Smith History 1: verses 18-20, Pearl of Great Price)
So Mormonism has never given us the simple option of a "new and improved" version of Christianity. Instead, it has declared Christianity "dead" via apostasy and proceeded to build its church upon the supposed graveyard of Christianity.
After all, if the Baptists thought the Catholics had a better understanding of God's will and they had a better chance of reaching heaven by being Catholics, why would they stay Baptist?
Listen, these days the vast majority of Protestants will acknowledge Catholicism as being within the umbrella of Christianity. But if you get to the foundational belief of what Mormonism teaches about Christianity, Mormon leaders take the same hardline as Muslims...Muslims say Christians are "infidels" and Mormons say Christianity underwent a "universal apostasy" for about 1500 years.
Christians, regardless of denomination, do themselves no favors with their silly ill-mannered warm lemonade contests. I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I am heartily sick of it.
If Christians can't respond to Mormons declaring them to be in the spiritual grave since the third or fourth century, then I don't know what we can respond to. (That's hardly squeezing lemonade for lemonade contests)
Wow! That's quite a statement! MASSIVE PERSECUTION SINCE THE DESTRUCTION OF ROMNEY'S CAMPAIGN.......WHO WOULD BE PRESIDENT TODAY.......
How about some examples of this "massive persecution" (think Sarah Palin) and proof that "Mitt would be president"
Shades of the poor, innocent mormons in history!
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