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To: little jeremiah
I go with tradition - sodomy between men was a capital offense in this country - Jefferson being the enlightened gentleman that he was, reduced the penalty in VA to, IIRC, castration and banishment from the colony or state.

And I support limiting the government's powers to tell people what to do behind closed doors, if they're not harming anyone. I simply don't see where the government gets the power to do so.

Every scripture in the world considers sodomy - meaning anal “sex” - and any sex acts between members of the same sex - to be sinful, criminal acts.

But we don't criminalize sins, not generally. Our laws are generally aimed at protecting the person or property of another from being victimized.

And, the legal defintion of sodomy in this country has never been limited to male-male anal sex. The Texas law that was struck down in Bowers, for example, criminalized all oral and anal sex, regardless of the parties involved.

What's your opposition to banning government interference with private, consensual sexual activities between adults?

48 posted on 11/10/2008 3:39:10 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

We don’t criminalize sins?

Ha ha. You’re funny. It is a sin to murder, to assault, to rob, steal, burglurize, kidnap, commit arson, rape, molest children, slander, lie in court, and the like.

What you liberaltarians mean is you want “regular” sins to be illegal but sexual sins should be allowed. Control of the sexual impulse is what distinquishes humans from animals. All monotheist cultures (and I’m including Buddhist even though it isn’t monotheist since it’s really based on Hindu or Vedic tradition and scripture, and Hinduism since its foundation is monotheist) have soundly condemned sodomy - homosexuality, abortion, premarital sex and adultery. This isn’t because they were all prudes, but because God has rules and He has revealed them throughout history. These rules are natural laws, and when they are broken, broken families and broken social order is the direct and inescapable result.

It’s amazing the support of sodomy on this thread, totally ignoring the reality of what legalizing sodomy has accomplished in the last few years. If people who want to practice sodomy KEPT THEIR NASTY ACTIVITIES IN THEIR FREAKING BEDROOMS (or bathrooms, as the case may be), not a single solitary soul would know or care.

The entire “keeping the government out of the bedroom” is a farce - it’s a fraud. People Promoting the Practice of Sodomy want it in the streets, in the parks, in the PUBLIC bathrooms, at the beaches, on TV, in theaters, and worst of all, in the schools and in the Boy Scouts.

Keep in the bedrooms and out of everyone else’s life.

Liberaltarians are worse than liberals because at least liberals admit what they want, you liberaltarians pretend that you’re about reduction of government. Real reduction of government means keep the government out of forcing acceptance, “tolerance” and promotion of sodomy on the REST OF US.


64 posted on 11/10/2008 9:13:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Citizen Blade; little jeremiah
But we don't criminalize sins, not generally.

Of course, we do. Every law on the books that I can think of is to prevent someone from doing something wrong.

Our laws are generally aimed at protecting the person or property of another from being victimized.

It criminalizes things like murder, theft, destruction of property. IOW, sin.

86 posted on 11/11/2008 6:09:39 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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