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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ I don't see the great hierarchy of being as a "system" at all — unless by "system" you mean "universe" or "cosmos," and not its narrower sense of a philosophical doctrine. Rather, I see it as a simple description of the universal context in which human beings exist, thus comprehensively forming the irreducible bases of human experience. ]

Exactly.. humans are to "that concept" merely primates.. or monkeys with instinct and habits..

Pity that they cannot see the only way for humans to evolve is to be "re-born" into another creature.. Or primates to evolve into something "else".. They miss the very deep scientific truth of the evolution of humans.. to fulfil the metaphorical evolution of other life forms all around them.. They miss the punch line.. or the point of being born again...

Could be in the future they will be told this.. only to look at "some angel that tells them this and then goes.. "Duuuugh!".. when it dawns on them..

Amazing that some people will hear what they want to hear.. and see what they want to see..

80 posted on 11/15/2008 11:50:13 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Amazing that some people will hear what they want to hear.. and see what they want to see..

Precisely so, dear brother in Christ! Thereby their "reality" is of their own imaginations.

Thank you for sharing your insights.

82 posted on 11/15/2008 12:03:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl
Exactly.. humans are to "that concept" merely primates.. or monkeys with instinct and habits..

Indeed. This is the theme of the great myth of the divine puppet-master in Plato's Laws. We humans are as if suspended in an "in-between" reality that subjects us to the competing pulls of the divine "golden cord," or the variety of pulls that come from "below," from our instinctual, animal, emotional nature.

LOLOL, but I just recollected Katherine Hepburn's famous line from the African Queen: "Human nature is that which we are supposed to rise above."

Again we get back to your donkey/rider metaphor. Plato described man as "psyche in soma," of soul or spirit incarnated in a body. Moreoever, man naturally possesses nous, mind, or reason, whether or not he chooses to develop it. The "pulls" of the divine puppet-master of the myth are the "pulls" of the divine Nous; since man has nous also, communication is possible.

Of course, this is all Greek to me! LOLOL!

83 posted on 11/15/2008 12:40:56 PM PST by betty boop
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