Posted on 11/03/2008 11:42:37 AM PST by NYer
THE Brisbane parish of St Mary's looks set to be excommunicated after the local priest, Peter Kennedy, said yesterday he would not change his ways despite being warned to do so by church authorities.
Father Kennedy was speaking after the inner-city parish received a letter from Brisbane Catholic Archbishop John Bathersby, who has given the parish until the end of the month to change several of its practices.
The South Brisbane church openly gives communion to gays, regularly has women giving the homily, and has a style of baptism that is not within the rules of the Catholic Church.
Neither Father Kennedy nor the other priest at the church, Terry Fitzpatrick, wear traditional priest's vestments.
The archbishop wrote to the parish in September drawing attention to practices that placed St Mary's "not in communion with the Catholic Church", and giving them until the end of the year to respond.
But in a letter last week, Archbishop Bathersby said several undertakings had not been honoured and that "games are still being played, as they were in the past".
"I am prepared to wait until December 1, but no longer. After that I will begin a formal process to address the situation," he said.
While the parish still has the rest of the month to respond to the archbishop, Father Kennedy indicated yesterday that the local people would not be changing their practices.
Father Kennedy said the practices at St Mary's had evolved over the years from the community. He strongly criticised what he called the hierarchical approach of the Vatican in dictating what should be said in every parish in the world.
He said St Mary's had been "white-anted" by people who were not regular members of the church and found some of the practices there offensive.
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Why wait ... they have been repeatedly warned. Shut them down.
I don’t understand, isn’t it a hierchial system. Why excommunicate the entire parish instead of just change the leadership and excommunicate the errant priest.
(just my Southern Baptist opinion)
I don’t understand, isn’t it a hierchial system. Why excommunicate the entire parish instead of just change the leadership and excommunicate the errant priest.
(just my Southern Baptist opinion)
This guy sounds like he deserves excommunication based on the invalid baptisms alone. However, “openly gives communion to gays” seems a funny charge. Being homosexual is not a sin, but a disorder. It is only homosexual activity that is sinful, and if engaged in with full knowledge of its sinfulness and consent, would be a mortal sin. Therefore, withholding communion would not necessarily be appropriate for someone who was apparently or claimed to “be gay” unless, as with the rainbow sashers, individuals were publicly and unrepentantly dissenting from Church teaching on homosexuality.
The parish could be placed under interdict - i.e. forbidden from celebrating the sacraments until order is restored in the parish.
Only individual persons can be excommunicated.
A similar situation occurred in St. Louis, where the local bishop excommunicated the former pastor and the members of the parish council who personally endorsed his behavior.
When the parish did not remove the council and continued to engage in the pastor's activities, the parish was dissolved and the faithful members of the parish invited to join nearby faithful parishes.
Sometimes, the whole parish is a problem.
This happened in my Diocese when a new priest was put into a parish going in the wrong direction
Goodness.
How can I bear it?
Agreeing with you yet again!
Father Kennedy, 71, who has refused all media interviews until the weekend, said he was making a stand on behalf of what he called "recovering Catholics".
If I join the Catholic Faith, then consider me a resurgent Catholic! One who sees the value in holding on to at least SOME traditions.
If a homosexual is not having sex, can they receive the sacraments?
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Agreed. Every day they are leading Catholics astray. Their behaviour may also inspire confusion and enmity in others, who may not be Catholic.
>> did the priest try to turn them back towards orthodoxy,<<
Yes! and let me tell you, sometimes taking the power away from the laity can cause mushroom clouds.
The Priest has a tough row to hoe there. But they have a great perpeual adoration chapel and I think Our Lord is guiding them.
>>If a homosexual is not having sex, can they receive the sacraments?<<
If ANYONE who is unmarried is having sex, that person may not receive the Holy Eucharist. If he/she goes to confession with a humble and contrite heart, he/she is forgiven.
Even homosexuals are welcome, no matter what the MSM says. But the sin of homosexual sex is actually no worse than unmarried heterosexual sex. Both are sins.
Come on. You secretly like some of us. XD
Hugs my FRiend!!!
Generally, unmarried folks who are sleeping around know that they are doing wrong, repent, and struggle against their temptation. If they don't feel that it's wrong, they go find another church, they don't agitate to receive the sacraments anyway.
The in-your-face homosexual activists aren't really interested in repentance, they are on a political campaign (which of course is incompatible with genuine repentance and intent to amend, even if one falls short repeatedly).
The real problem with this priest and this parish is that they are loudly insisting that what the Church teaches to be sin, is not sin, and that they are proud of it. That's incompatible with calling oneself a Catholic parish.
OH, DEAR!
That was supposed to be highly classified info.
“Father Kennedy said the practices at St Mary’s had evolved over the years from the community. He strongly criticised what he called the hierarchical approach of the Vatican in dictating what should be said in every parish in the world.”
Idiot, what part of Caholic Church don’t you understand?
“Father Kennedy said the practices at St Mary’s had evolved over the years from the community. He strongly criticised what he called the hierarchical approach of the Vatican in dictating what should be said in every parish in the world.”
Idiot, what part of Catholic in Catholic Church don’t you understand?
Not after she got her Opus Dei secret decoder ring!
On subject:
Y’all are right, they should be shut down!
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