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To: Dudoight
Dear Friend, the Church has undergone reformation from within through the ages,Luther was a prideful man who sought to do it on his own outside of the Church.

Here is an example of what Martin Luther wrote..

“”Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly.... as long as we are here [in this world] we have to sin.... No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.” Letter to Melanchthon, August 1,1521 Luther's Works, vol. 48

You can see why the church did not need Luther to be part of the internal reformation from within

This is one of the best and most accurate articles concerning the reformation. Please take the time to read it.
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/protesy.htm

Here is some info on Hilaire Belloc- the Author of the article
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0035.html
I wish you a Blessed day!

13 posted on 10/31/2008 10:56:22 AM PDT by stfassisi (The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: stfassisi; steve8714

I don’t remember what I wrote, but I say that Luther was right to rock our church and its practices at that time. I don’t buy Lutheranism. But I definitely feel that the prelates, holy men, priests, bishops, cardinals and pope of the Catholic church itself, both politically and spiritually at that time, brought about the reformation by its on practices.

We haven’t always had wise and holy souls leading us.


29 posted on 10/31/2008 3:03:19 PM PDT by Dudoight
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To: stfassisi

Thank you for the references. I will read them. I did study the reformation in depth, years and years ago. Never read Belloc. I was a history major and took every course I could on that period. It was absolutely fascinating.


30 posted on 10/31/2008 3:08:52 PM PDT by Dudoight
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