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Civilization in the Balance: The Battle of Lepanto and Election ‘08
CE ^ | October 27, 2008 | James Maldonado Berry

Posted on 10/27/2008 8:05:57 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Pyro7480

You’re right. I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that we can know whose side G-d is on. We can only try to be on His side.

And, at the time, Catholicism was not morally superior to Islam, or Judaism, for that matter.

A lot of popular beliefs are wrong, such as the belief in the free lunch.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 11:06:22 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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I don’t believe that we can know whose side G-d is on.

Even when the wind unexplainably shifts at a key point right before a naval battle?

22 posted on 10/28/2008 11:30:49 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (This Papist for Palin ask everyone to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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Whose side was He on when the Spanish (Catholic) armada was defeated in 1588?


23 posted on 10/28/2008 11:38:18 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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“Even when the wind unexplainably shifts at a key point right before a naval battle?”

If they had had weather satellite's and doppler radar in those days, they might have been able to predict the wind shift.

24 posted on 10/28/2008 11:42:55 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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Was there some kind of miracle associated with this battle that I’m not aware of? God doesn’t act in every human activity.


25 posted on 10/28/2008 11:50:50 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (This Papist for Palin ask everyone to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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“Was there some kind of miracle associated with this battle that I’m not aware of? God doesn’t act in every human activity.”

Several, but most of all, the outmanned English fleet prevailed over the invincible Spanish armada.

One can interpret any favorable outcome as due to miracles. Did G-d provide the typhoon that saved Japan from the Mongol fleet? If so, why? Did G-d provide McClellan with Lee’s battle plans? (If you’re a Southerner, you may attribute this to a different source.)

I’m not qualified to interpret, or to try to influence Divine will, or Divine purpose. You are free to believe that there is Divine will in all those outcomes that you would consider to be positive, but what of all the negative outcomes?


26 posted on 10/28/2008 12:25:37 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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We are moving towards a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as for certain and which has as its highest goal one’s own ego and one’s own desires.

Is this not right out of the Satanic Bible written by Anton LaVey?

27 posted on 10/28/2008 2:59:43 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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Victor Davis Hanson, Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles In The Rise Of Western Power
28 posted on 10/29/2008 12:42:43 AM PDT by onedoug ( Barracuda!)
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