[Campion]

The "John XXIII" they're talking about lived in the 15th century, and was an antipope. What the crimes or alleged crimes of an antipope have to do with anything, we aren't told.

It's sort of like talking about how wrong Al Gore is about global warming, and how that proves what fools Presidents of the US are.

[wagglebee]

The "John XXIII" they're talking about lived in the 15th century, and was an antipope. What the crimes or alleged crimes of an antipope have to do with anything, we aren't told.

It's sort of like talking about how wrong Al Gore is about global warming, and how that proves what fools Presidents of the US are.

Excellent point!

I have NEVER had a problem acknowledging that some popes (Alexander VI come immediately to mind) were corrupt and even evil. The fact that NOBODY has EVER been able to find a false ex cathedra statement regarding faith or morals only REINFORCES the doctrine of infallibility.