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Notre Dame Tenured Theologian McBrien Blasts Bishops
Catholic Online ^ | 10/8/2008 | Catholic PRWire

Posted on 10/08/2008 10:52:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

MANASSAS, VA (OCTOBER 8, 2008) - Father Richard McBrien, the Crowley-O'Brien Professor of Roman Catholic Theology at the University of Notre Dame, ripped into the hierarchy of the Catholic Church at a talk given at a Unitarian church in Kansas City recently. According to an article today, October 7, 2008 in the National Catholic Reporter, McBrien said Pope John Paul II’s greatest failing was naming bishops.

“Father McBrien’s blatant disregard and contempt for the leadership of the Catholic Church is nothing new,” said Patrick J. Reilly, President of The Cardinal Newman Society. “Until Notre Dame and other Catholic colleges are rid of such jaded liberal theologians, the renewal of Catholic higher education can never be complete.”

During the question and answer segment of his talk, Father McBrien sharply criticized the life-long office of the Papacy, characterizing it as tyrannical. He compared the pontificate of John Paul II to an imaginary lifetime Bush presidency, where as many appointments of jurists to US courts could be made as desired.

“That's exactly what Pope John Paul II -- or any other pope for that matter -- was able to do in his long term of office, and that is why the Catholic church finds itself today . . . with such a dearth of pastoral leadership," said McBrien.

The Notre Dame professor added that John Paul II’s greatest failing as Pope lies in the bishops he named.

“Men were appointed bishops or promoted within the hierarchy on the basis of loyalty to the Holy See rather than on the basis of pastoral aptitude, theological sophistication and leadership skills,” quipped McBrien.

McBrien attacked the US Bishops, who steadfastly urge Catholics to vote pro-Life, for supposedly violating guidelines set out in USCCB documents. Such guidelines specify that the bishops do not “wish to

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1 posted on 10/08/2008 10:52:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

So he wants abortionists to unite?

Just what exactly does he wish from the Church.

Oh, I get it. He wishes for CHANGE you can believe in.


2 posted on 10/08/2008 10:55:09 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: Alex Murphy

McBrien was openly living with a woman in South Bend and Ted Hesburgh knew it.

Just saying.


3 posted on 10/08/2008 10:55:58 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Alex Murphy

It’s just SEW not FAYur that J2P2 appointed bishops who believed the teachings of the Church!


4 posted on 10/08/2008 10:56:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Carley

McBrian brought a Marquette “ethicist” to campus to argue that the Catholic tradition allows for abortion.

He got killed in a debate.


5 posted on 10/08/2008 10:57:31 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Mad Dawg

Took this guy as an undergrad and he announced to the class that he didn’t have time to answer any questions outside of class. We had to go to his grad students.

Only teacher at ND that ever did that that I heard of.


6 posted on 10/08/2008 11:00:23 AM PDT by prolifefirst
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To: Alex Murphy
McBrien is a Protestant in All But Name (PABN) ... I note that he delivered his remarks at a Unitarian church.

Intellectual honesty would suggest that he join them.

7 posted on 10/08/2008 11:02:55 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I am not Catholic so am somewhat ignorant of how the rules work in that organization. I would like someone who knows to answer a question I have. Why are people like this man not excommunicated?


8 posted on 10/08/2008 11:06:04 AM PDT by scory
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To: Alex Murphy
Father Richard McBrien ... ripped into the hierarchy of the Catholic Church at a talk given at a Unitarian church

McBrien should stay in the Unitarian church.

9 posted on 10/08/2008 11:06:07 AM PDT by Campion
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To: scory

End times, anything goes now.


10 posted on 10/08/2008 11:11:55 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: prolifefirst

Well, of COURSE! I mean he is so wise and good that he knows better than the Church. How could he be expected to trouble himself with his duty to his students? YOU’ve got a nerve, thinking that so great a man could spare the time to deal with insignificant scum like you.


11 posted on 10/08/2008 11:12:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Alex Murphy

OMG!!! He’s needs DE-FROCKING!


12 posted on 10/08/2008 11:16:37 AM PDT by Ann Archy (AbortiDUH!!!on.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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KEYWORDS: anticatholicfetish; Click to Add Keyword

I see one of the New Inquisidores has left their mark!

13 posted on 10/08/2008 11:20:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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quipped McBrien.

About all he's good for. He's as irrelevant as the rest of the former Flower Children.

14 posted on 10/08/2008 11:29:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Alex Murphy

Alex.....you are true to yourself..... anti-Catholic threads almost always have your fingerprints on them! You must be so proud.


15 posted on 10/08/2008 11:30:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (AbortiDUH!!!on.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Campion
McBrien should stay in the Unitarian church.

As soon as I saw, "at a talk given at a Unitarian church", I thought the same thing. = D

16 posted on 10/08/2008 11:33:05 AM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL!! Whoever did that NAILED you!! You really do have an anti-Catholic Fetish......small rocks, Alex.....small rocks.


17 posted on 10/08/2008 11:36:15 AM PDT by Ann Archy (AbortiDUH!!!on.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.

Making the thread "about" another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

19 posted on 10/08/2008 11:37:59 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Alex Murphy; prolifefirst
“That's exactly what Pope John Paul II -- or any other pope for that matter -- was able to do in his long term of office, and that is why the Catholic church finds itself today . . . with such a dearth of pastoral leadership," said McBrien.

Speaking of overly long terms in office, has anybody heard that McBrien is going to set an example and forsake his tenure at Notre Dame?

Neither have I.

Term limits for the Pope and tenure for "sophisticated" (don't you love that word) theologians, such as moi. That's McBrien's motto.

“Men were appointed bishops or promoted within the hierarchy on the basis of loyalty to the Holy See rather than on the basis of pastoral aptitude, theological sophistication and leadership skills,” quipped McBrien.

IOW, fidelity to Catholic teaching is incompatible with a true pastoral approach. Got that?

Oh, and no questions, OK? I'm a busy man.

20 posted on 10/08/2008 11:38:42 AM PDT by marshmallow
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