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To: Bobsvainbabblings
God's Divine mercy could still save them if man gave us the doctrine of the trinity.

Assume the Trinity is correct. Why can't people be saved if they are mistaken and believe it is false? God can't save people, despite their ignorance? If the Trinity is correct, why would God save people (Noah, Elijah, Moses, etc.) who did not understand his Trinitarian nature?

The Jews that knew Christ accepted Him because they knew He was the Messiah. The Jews after the doctrine of the trinity don't because they know he isn't God the way the trinity describes Him.

Current Jews. What of them? They deny Christ is God, AND they deny Christ is the Messiah.

If the doctrine is from man, God can show them mercy. If the doctrine is from Him, He cannot.

You propose to limit God and His mercy? Bold, my friend.

What do you think of Christ's command to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? We should baptize in the name of God, plus some other things that aren't God?

52 posted on 10/06/2008 6:45:13 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum
Assume the Trinity is correct. Why can't people be saved if they are mistaken and believe it is false? God can't save people, despite their ignorance? If the Trinity is correct, why would God save people (Noah, Elijah, Moses, etc.) who did not understand his Trinitarian nature?

God would save them the same way He saves you and I whether we or they do or do not understand His Trinitarian nature. The only thing we need to be saved is to repent and believe in our heart that we are sinners and Jesus died for those sins and agree to make Him our Lord. 

The Jews that knew Christ accepted Him because they knew He was the Messiah. The Jews after the doctrine of the trinity don't because they know he isn't God the way the trinity describes Him.

Current Jews. What of them? They deny Christ is God, AND they deny Christ is the Messiah.

As I stated before. The Jews before the doctrine of the trinity had no problem accepting Jesus because they believed He was the Messiah, the Christ, the anointed one of God. Not God. When the Church made Jesus God, He could no longer be the Messiah under their belief system.

If the doctrine is from man, God can show them mercy. If the doctrine is from Him, He cannot.

You propose to limit God and His mercy? Bold, my friend.

I do not propose to limit God. I should not have used the word mercy in my statements. God does not show mercy like we do in our courts because of the bleeding heart liberal politicians and judges. In God's court things are black and white. There is no gray. There are no attorneys blaming someone else for their clients misgivings. There is only one crime, sin. You are either a sinner or you are not.

Only One so far is sinless. All the rest are guilty. The only mercy God has shown is to allow that one sinless Man's punishment and death to be the payment for all of us who are guilty if we repent in our heart and ask.  

What do you think of Christ's command to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? We should baptize in the name of God, plus some other things that aren't God?

I have no problem taking orders from Him. He said it, I have no reason to do it any other way. It is not for me to decide if they are God or not. It has no bearing on the out come. The individual will be baptized.


55 posted on 10/06/2008 10:15:44 PM PDT by Bobsvainbabblings (Islam, a vile fruit of the Doctrine of the Trinity)
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