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To: sasportas

“I have examined it and find it seriously flawed.”

“It” being the Catechism? The Doctrine of the Holy Trinity? Something else?


11 posted on 10/05/2008 11:52:40 AM PDT by narses (Obama and Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: narses

The “it” is the Baltimore Cathechism, I read it some years ago. I think it was the 60’s version. Maybe they now have out an updated version.

One thing that struck me was it’s pictures. It had all these pictures of an old grey bearded man as God, Jesus as His Son, and a dove. Yet they said they were one. Looked like three to me.

The Cathechism’s “three in one” is just a bunch of double talk - or, should I say triple talk. The Cathechism’s “three in one” amounts to three Gods, plainly and simply. Three separate and distinct Gods.

This, despite the united testimony of the Bible that God is absolutely and uniquely one.


14 posted on 10/05/2008 12:35:08 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: narses
“I have examined it and find it seriously flawed.”

I also have a complaint -- not with the Catechism produced by the Third Council of Baltimore per se, but with some editions which have been published.

In particular, the Baltimore Catechism No. 2 currently published by Tan Books contains a serious heresy.

Question 30. Are the three Divine Persons really distinct from one another?
The three Divine Persons are really distinct from one another.

The Tan BC#2 has a footnote to this question which defines the word "distinct" as meaning "separate."

This is a very grave heresy. The Three Persons of the Trinity are distinct; but They are not separate.

The Athanasian Creed: And this is the Catholic faith: that we worship one God in the Trinity and the Trinity in unity, neither confusing the Persons nor separating the substance. For the Person of the Father is distinct, distinct the Person of the Son, and distinct the Person of the Holy Spirit....

Council of Toledo (675): Therefore we say that the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God, each one distinctly; yet there are not three gods, but one God. Theirs is one, undivided and equal deity.... Hence we confess and believe that each Person distinctly is fully God, and the three Persons together are one God. Theirs is one, undivided and equal Godhead.... For we distinguish the Persons, but do not divide the Godhead. Hence, we recognize the Trinity in the distinction of Persons and we profess the unity on account of the nature or substance. Thus, the three are one as a nature, not as person. Nevertheless these three Persons are not to be considered separable since, according to our beliefs, none of them ever existed or acted before another, after another, without another. For they are inseparable both in what they are and in what they do.... For this reason we profess and believe that this Trinity is not separable but is distinct.... Therefore, neither do we confuse these three Persons whose nature is one and inseparable, nor do we preach that they are in any way separable....

41 posted on 10/05/2008 6:46:00 PM PDT by Dajjal (Visit Ann Coulter's getdrunkandvote4mccain.com)
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