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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

A supernatural mystery is a truth which we cannot fully understand, but which we firmly believe because we have God's word for it.
1 Corinthians 2 (Douay-Rheims):

And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not in loftiness of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of Christ. For I judged not myself to know anything among you, but Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not in the persuasive words of human wisdom, but in showing of the Spirit and power; that your faith might not stand on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.
Howbeit we speak wisdom among the perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, neither of the princes of this world that come to nought; but we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, a wisdom which is hidden, which God ordained before the world, unto our glory: which none of the princes of this world knew; for if they had known it, they would never have crucified the Lord of glory. But, as it is written: That eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath it entered into the heart of man, what things God hath prepared for them that love him. But to us God hath revealed them, by this Spirit. For the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
For what man knoweth the things of a man, but the spirit of a man that is in him? So the things also that are of God no man knoweth, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received not the spirit of this world, but the Spirit that is of God; that we may know the things that are given us from God. Which things also we speak, not in the learned words of human wisdom; but in the doctrine of the Spirit, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the sensual man perceiveth not these things that are of the Spirit of God; for it is foolishness to him, and he cannot understand, because it is spiritually examined. But the spiritual man judgeth all things; and he himself is judged of no man.
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that we may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

This cathechism states the classic Trinitarianism of the RCC. So what. It is authoritative to American Catholics, but I’m not Catholic. For Protestants, official statements like this is reason enough to question it...and reject it.

I have examined it and find it seriously flawed. I reject it like I reject their other doctrines - Mariolatry, the alleged supremacy of the Roman Papacy over Christianity, Peter being their first alleged Pope, and a hundred other similarly false doctrines.

I love the Baltimore Catechism. Like the Presbyterian Shorter Catechism I learned as a child, it gives a clear and correct, although not exhaustive, definition for key concept. I’ve been learning and teaching it since we began homeschooling when my oldest daughter was 4 (she’s in college now), and I constantly find it useful in discussions or in teaching classes at church.

For example, take an apparently simple question like, “Q: What are angels? A: Angels are created spirits, without bodies.” How many people know that, and understand that angels are distinct from human beings *from creation*, and that one never turns into the other?

There’s much more to say about angels, of course. The CCC says much, the Bible says a great deal, Thomas Aquinas has a contribution or two. But how many Christians have even assimilated the basic definition, created spirits without bodies? The Baltimore Catechism is like learning the alphabet and phonics, as it were.

I am curious. How can most Christians support a doctrine, which only Catholic Church tradition says you have to believe to be saved, justify all the souls lost to Islam because of that doctrine?

We are to judge things by their fruits. Muhammad used the doctrine of the Trinity to claim Christians worship a triune god. His god, Allah, is the only true monotheistic god.

“ They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is no god except One Allah.” (Qur'an 5:73).

I have a hard time believing God's Spirit would institute and perpetuate a doctrine which has produced such bitter fruit. God knows the future, He would have to have known how many souls would be lost.

I believe scripture proclaims God the Father wants all mankind to come to Him through His Son. If what I say is true, He is responsible for all these souls being lost as a result of Him giving this doctrine. That would make Him a lair and He would no longer be a Holy God.

The deceiver would have no problem pushing such a doctrine.

Can someone please tell me where I am wrong with what I have stated. BVB