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Not to be used in Catholic worship ( Holy See lays down law on use of ‘Yaweh’ and ‘Jehovah’ )
California Catholic Daily ^ | September 22, 2008 | staff

Posted on 09/22/2008 7:40:02 AM PDT by kellynla

The Holy See has ruled that the tetragrammaton, the Old Testament’s name for God and rendered “Yahweh” or “Jehovah,” may not be used in Catholic worship.

[[Serratelli092208.jpg]]The Vatican’s Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments issued the ruling earlier this summer, and Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Paterson, N.J., chairman of the U.S. bishops’ Committee on Divine Worship, informed the U.S. bishops of it last month.

Though the ruling does not affect in any way the official liturgy of the Mass, it will require the editing of some general intercessions used in the Mass and the celebration of other sacraments. Also affected will be some popular songs used in the Church in the United States, such as “I Will Bless Yahweh,” “Rise, O Yahweh,” and “You Are Near,” which opens with “Yahweh, I know you are near.”

“You Are Near” is among the more popular songs used in Catholic worship in the U.S., said John Limb of Oregon Catholic Press, according a Catholic News Service article in the Sept. 8 Catholic Voice, the newspaper of the Oakland diocese. The article said the Oregon Catholic Press web site lists about 12 songs that feature the tetragrammaton.

Oregon Catholic Press has already printed its throwaway songbooks for 2009, so the changes will not be apparent until 2010 at the earliest. Another major publisher, GIA Publications in Chicago, has long had a policy against using the tetragrammaton. For instance, in GIA songbooks, the song “Thanks Be to Yahweh” appears as “Thanks Be to God.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicism; holysee; jehovah; yaweh
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1 posted on 09/22/2008 7:40:03 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses; A.A. Cunningham

ping


2 posted on 09/22/2008 7:40:43 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Wow! What an important waste of time!

One would think that the Holy See would be more concerned with dealing with the Communist infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church with their "Liberation Theology"!

3 posted on 09/22/2008 7:44:26 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: kellynla
Oregon Catholic Press has already printed its throwaway songbooks for 2009

Everything that comes out of OCP is a throwaway, IMO.

4 posted on 09/22/2008 7:44:52 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Redleg Duke

They dealt with that years ago. It’s condemned.


5 posted on 09/22/2008 7:47:58 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Redleg Duke

Excuse me, are you a Catholic?


6 posted on 09/22/2008 7:48:59 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

We “Bible Churchers” worship from the heart, not a book.


7 posted on 09/22/2008 7:50:37 AM PDT by smokinleroy (How come gas prices spiked only AFTER the democrats won Congress?)
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To: smokinleroy

Actually by your own words you worship from the Bible, a book, an inspired book but a book, nonetheless. Catholics, on the other hand, worship from the whole deposit of faith led by the Holy Spirit.


8 posted on 09/22/2008 7:57:26 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: smokinleroy

Sales of Whiteout have tripled


9 posted on 09/22/2008 7:59:15 AM PDT by shadeaud
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To: kellynla
All I know is that my Jewish friends consider that pronouncing it ( the tetragrammaton) to be rude and highly inconsiderate. It's not like it's so hard just to say ‘LORD’ (Or The LORD Almighty) and show some respect.
10 posted on 09/22/2008 8:00:10 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Sarah Palin has run a state, a town, a commercial fishing business. All Obama has run is his mouth)
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To: kellynla
The notion that early Christians did not use God's name goes against Jesus own words about the importance of His father's name as Ia he said ‘hallowed be thy name’.
“Hallowing” is not superstition against use.
Those of us that accept the Bible will continue to use and hallow God's name.
11 posted on 09/22/2008 8:10:36 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: smokinleroy

Is spiritual pride a sin?


12 posted on 09/22/2008 8:18:08 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Redleg Duke
Wow! What an important waste of time! One would think that the Holy See would be more concerned with dealing with the Communist infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church with their "Liberation Theology"!

Your post would be absolutely correct if The Vatican’s Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments dealt with Liberation Theology but it doesn't. So your post is invalid.

13 posted on 09/22/2008 8:40:10 AM PDT by frogjerk (MSM: We will not question Obama bin Biden...)
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To: kellynla
God's answer to Moses is thus at once a refusal and a pledge. He says of himself simply, "I am who I am"--he is without any qualification. This pledge is a name and a non-name at one and the same time. The Israelites were therefore perfectly right in refusing to utter this self-designation of God, expressed in the YHWH, so as to avoid degrading it to the level of names of pagan deities. By the same token, recent Bible translations were wrong to write out this name--which Israel always regarded as mysterious and unutterable--as if it were just any old name. By doing so, they have dragged the mystery of God, which cannot be captured in images or in names lips can utter, down to the level of some familiar item within a common history of religions. ---Pope Benedict XVI, Jesus of Nazareth, p. 143.

We should call God by the title "Father," as Jesus teaches us.

14 posted on 09/22/2008 8:41:26 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: Faraday

Thanks for the quote! :)

I read the book (twice, actually — so far), but I had forgotten that.


15 posted on 09/22/2008 8:44:51 AM PDT by maryz
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To: kellynla

Good - lay down the law on hand holding during the Lord’s Prayer too. It creeps me out.


16 posted on 09/22/2008 8:45:37 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: kellynla
"All I said was that this fish was good enough for Yahweh."
17 posted on 09/22/2008 8:51:13 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: count-your-change
The notion that early Christians did not use God's name goes against Jesus own words about the importance of His father's name as Ia he said ‘hallowed be thy name’. “Hallowing” is not superstition against use.

(1) You clearly don't know what a first century Jew meant by the term kodesh ("hallowed").

(2) It is interesting that nowhere in the New Testament is the Tetragrammaton used.

Why would that be?

18 posted on 09/22/2008 9:03:47 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

QUOTE:It is interesting that nowhere in the New Testament is the Tetragrammaton used.
Why would that be?
END QUOTE

The same reason ‘mass’ ‘transubstantiation’ ‘eucharist’ are not used perhaps?

I don’t even care about this issue- I just think your argument is specious

will wallace


19 posted on 09/22/2008 9:14:07 AM PDT by will of the people
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To: kellynla
“You Are Near” is among the more popular songs used in Catholic worship in the U.S.

A horrible hymn imo. Plodding and annoying.

20 posted on 09/22/2008 9:15:33 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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