[ConservativeMind]

Okay, then, since you are apparently stating there is nothing in the bible that Catholic's use to support the above wording, please give the non-biblical reference that justifies the above? Is it from “Catechism of the Catholic Church”? Is it from some internal document in the bowels of Vatican City? Also, how would you know if something was right if you can't bring it back to the Bible?

Your line of reasoning leaves one to believe the higher-ups in the Catholic church can just make things up, and then tell their parishioners that, “even though the Bible doesn't say anything like this, ‘trust me.’”

Maybe this is how many of the abuses of the US Catholic church came to be and why there are so many lawsuits. After all, their behavior wasn't “right” by the Bible, but we know that Catholics must not really take the Bible as their reference point.

[Petronski]

Your line of reasoning leaves one to believe the higher-ups in the Catholic church can just make things up, and then tell their parishioners that, “even though the Bible doesn't say anything like this, ‘trust me.’”

Even though the Bible doesn't say anything like sola scriptura, trust me. --Rev. Billy-bob.

[Petronski]

Maybe this is how many of the abuses of the US Catholic Church came to be and why there are so many lawsuits.

Why don't you show me where those abuses were claimed to be a teaching of the Catholic Church? Who claimed they were right?

[Mad Dawg]

Your line of reasoning leaves one to believe the higher-ups in the Catholic church can just make things up, and then tell their parishioners that, “even though the Bible doesn't say anything like this, ‘trust me.’”

Well I don't know where his "line of reasoning leaves" anyone. The real deal, though, is that we trust God. And that means we trust Him to keep what we think are His Promises to His Church. Yes, without God's care, without His "covenant loyalty" the Church could, theoretically go over the cliff. But we believe that God will protect His faithful people by keeping true the teaching of the Church and by ptoecting her from error in Her teaching.

From out here in Catholic land it sometimes seems as if some Protestants don't trust God, and so they hold Him accountable to the Bible. It's as if they were to say, "I have it here in writing Lord; you have to stick to the deal."

Despite the scandals and other challenges to our confidence in God's care, we still believe that He cares for us and preserves the Church from error. We trust God.