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To: ravenwolf

Thanks for your comment, and I’ll make this short. There is no identification in the Bible of the one hundred and forty four thousand with those who were brought back to life at the time of Christ’s death. We do not know what happened to those, like Lazarus, who were brought back to life by Christ. The Bible does not tell us. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate anyone other than Christ ascended to the Father at that time. Speculation about things not given to us in the Bible can lead to theological problems.


7 posted on 09/19/2008 4:30:46 PM PDT by topcat54 ("The selling of bad beer is a crime against Christian love.")
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To: topcat54

Thanks for the comeback

I do not blame you for having to have proof from the Scriptures,
But I notice you did not mention Romans ch 8 verse29 and 30
about the glorification of some people in the past.
or 1 cor 15 v 23. the first fruits,

You seem to be saying the same thing as the people in 1 cor ch 15 did, that there is no resurection of the dead, if there were no resurection of the dead then Christ could not have risen either, because he was to lead the firstfruits.

cor ch 15 verse 20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept.( they were no longer sleeping when this verse was wrote by paul.)

The new verisions of the scriptures changes the word slept to sleeping, many people are like the people who paul was writing to,

They do not want to believe that the people who were the ancesters of these terible jews could have been the firstfruits of christ. so they just changed the word slept to sleeping, so to change the whole concept.

So it is likly these new verisions came from these very people.

Hosea ch 6 v 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
(by this verse you can see that they were expecting to go with him at his resurection.)

If you read rev ch 14 v 1 through 5 you will see that it fits right in with 1 cor ch 15 v 23 the firstfruits

it plainly shows that the 144000 are the firstfruits that went with Christ.

and yes, you are right about the ones who came up from thier grave when Jesus died, it doe,s not say they went with Christ, but doe,s it have to? What else could it have happened for?

When you say there is nothing which indicates that anyone else went with Christ, maby you have not paid too much attention to the scriptures I have pointed out, plus many more.


8 posted on 09/26/2008 10:15:06 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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