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To: kosta50; stfassisi; FormerLib; Kolokotronis

XS>John wanted them to reject YHvH and instead embrace the Paganism of Constantine's Roman church

The Church believed in Christ Jesus. That's really "pagan!" The Church opposed those who enticed Christians to embrace Judaism. That's not racist. The issue was religion, not ethnicity. His homilies are against Judaiziers(sic), not Jews.

14 posted on September 15, 2008 5:46:40 AM MDT by kosta50

John Chrystostom condemned the worship of YHvH, the creator of the universe.

John argued for worship of the Man-made religion of Pagan Rome: Sunday, Easter.

What you call "church" is a man-made enterprise.

It was given a charter to operate as a state-sponsored enterprise
by the Pontiff, Constantine, the Pagan Emperor.

The Roman "church" rejected the YHvH commanded Feast of Passover( Nissan 14 )
and instead embraced the Pagan Easter(Pascha) on a very different date on a very
different calendar than than which was defined by the creator of the universe.

A careful reading of John Chrystostom's homilies against the Jews,
one would see it is racist as he calls YHvH's Chosen People unkind names.
These name are not based on the Charity of Yah'shua.

Clearly John Chrystostom is neither a Prophet nor is he Charitable.

YHvH commanded worship on Shabbat and not on the Pagan "Sunday" of the Roman "church".

YHvH commanded worship on Passover and not on the Pagan Easter(Pascha) of the Roman "church".

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
15 posted on 09/15/2008 8:32:48 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt

Saint Constantine the Great abandoned paganism for Christianity circa AD 313.

Sunday is the day Christ Rose from the Dead, and is thus a fitting day to worship Him. This is not pagan.

Easter is the annual celebration of the Resurrection of Christ. Again, decidedly NOT pagan. Quite the opposite of pagan, actually.


16 posted on 09/15/2008 8:35:54 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: XeniaSt
What you call "church" is a man-made enterprise.

The Catholic Church was ordained by God the Father, the first Person of the Holy Trinity, founded by Jesus Christ, the second Person of the Holy Trinity, and is guided to this day by the Holy Spirit, the third Person of the Holy Trinity.

17 posted on 09/15/2008 8:38:08 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: XeniaSt; stfassisi; FormerLib; Kolokotronis
John Chrystostom condemned the worship of YHvH, the creator of the universe

Last time I checked, St John Chrystostom believed in the the Creator of the Universe, the Word of God, Pentrocrator, aka Christ. I assume you know what Pentocrator means.

19 posted on 09/15/2008 10:52:43 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: XeniaSt; stfassisi; FormerLib; Kolokotronis
John argued for worship of the Man-made religion of Pagan Rome: Sunday, Easter.

Every religion is man-made because human beings try to make sense of the incomprehensible God. The problem every religion runs into is when it begins to claim that it was God who "chose" one over another, and literally "dictated" books, or personally wrote them.

Sunday is when Jesus resurrected. Your Sabbaterians have their own fuzzy math. I really don't care. Christianity is the New Covenant. We are not bound by Judaism.

Christmas is not the day when Jesus was born, and the New Year is not On Sep 14, as the OT claims, and no one seems perturbed about either one not being celebrated "as YHvH commanded."

20 posted on 09/15/2008 10:52:44 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: XeniaSt; stfassisi; FormerLib; Kolokotronis
It was given a charter to operate as a state-sponsored enterprise by the Pontiff, Constantine, the Pagan Emperor

First, there was no "Pontiff." The title was "Episcopus Romanus," the Bishop of Rome. Second, just as in Israel, the faith was identified with the state. Third, Constantine became a believer in the Christian God (had a "vision"), and therefore he was no longer a pagan.

The Roman "church" rejected the YHvH commanded Feast of Passover( Nissan 14 )

Last time I checked, +Paul rejected the Law as a defining element in Christianity. Why should Christians follow anything Jewish? No one is forcing you to be a Christian. The Old Covenant is not binding to Christians.

21 posted on 09/15/2008 10:52:45 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: XeniaSt; stfassisi; FormerLib; Kolokotronis
A careful reading of John Chrystostom's homilies against the Jews, one would see it is racist as he calls YHvH's Chosen People unkind names. These name are not based on the Charity of Yah'shua.

The Old Testament is full of examples where non-Jews are called by unkind names because they are not God's "chosen people." Very charitable indeed.

Clearly John Chrystostom is neither a Prophet nor is he Charitable

Oh, so one can be unkind and uncharitable only if one is God's prophet?

YHvH commanded worship on Shabbat and not on the Pagan "Sunday" of the Roman "church"

God commanded 613 mitzvot as well. Do you keep all of them? The hypocrisy of anyone calling himself righteous was made evident by +Paul when he reminds us that no one can keep the Law perfectly. It's not the Law, and it's not the Sabbath that saves you.

If you had to depend on your observance of the 613 commandments (not counting the rabbinical mitzvot) you'd be in great peril.

22 posted on 09/15/2008 10:52:58 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: XeniaSt; stfassisi; FormerLib; Kolokotronis
YHvH commanded worship on Passover and not on the Pagan Easter(Pascha) of the Roman "church"

Christian Passover is the day of Christ's Resurrection, a Sunday. It cannot fall on any other day as the 14 of Nissan can. To Christians, it is the day Christ delivered humanity to freedom from the bondage of death to which humanity was hopelessly bound by sin. No one called it "Easter." That is a western innovation, like the term "Byzantine."

The Romans had a seven-day calendar and they called the 7th day Dies Solis (the day of the Sun). It had nothing to do with pagan worship. The nomenclature was based on astronomical positions of celestial bodies and not gods. Those who lived in Rome had to call it by the convention of the state.

The first reference to Christian Sabbath as "Sunday" comes from +Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD) in his Apology, about 180 years before Constantine. Your historical context is not in order.

23 posted on 09/15/2008 11:01:30 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: XeniaSt; kosta50; Kolokotronis

Jesus came to fulfill the law. Our celebration of his Resurrection is the Passover of the New Covenant.

Slava Ocu i Sinu, i Svetome Duhu.
Sada i uvek, i u vekove vekova, Amin.


24 posted on 09/15/2008 5:48:16 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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