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To: Psalm_2
i don’t think i’m the one on the merry go round here.

Then why do you need to go "ad hominem" instead of actually addressing the issues I've brought to the table?

136 posted on 09/07/2008 4:56:44 PM PDT by papertyger (I'll vote McCain today for him giving us Palin tomorrow.)
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To: papertyger

you say i twist words ?

your following statement is an ad hominem attack that doesn’t deal with the issues i brought to the table in a previous post:

“Then why do you need to go “ad hominem” instead of actually addressing the issues I’ve brought to the table?”

my reply about catholic authority was sharp & pithy, you just can’t handle the Truth.

you say catholic authority is not limited by protestant doctrine. which means for most protestants the Authority of the Word of GOD is abrogated & superseded by fiat of catholic hierarchy.

sort of like an unconstitutional executive order.

earlier i said nowhere in Scripture is it advocated to pray to anyone other than to GOD.

your response:

“Where is it prohibited ?

Where do you get the authority to make positive prohibitions out of Scriptural silence?”

so to you Scriptural silence means no authority & thus no prohibition.

then i said Scripture is silent in prohibiting pedophilia, [thinking how will he continue to support Scriptural silence as reason to not condemn anything ?]

your response was: “Protestant doctrinal limitations do not apply to Catholic authority, but that is the nature of circular reasoning.

The Catholic Church has the authority to prohibit such things in and of itself. There is no need to appeal to Scripture for Church pronouncements. ... “

based on your reasoning, a lack of specific wording in Scripture leaves protestants without authority against perceived idolatry. yet you invent it out of thin air to condemn what we both agree is evil & also to invent doctrine that Scripture is completely silent on ie assumption of mary.

what’s good for thee is not for me. no private non papal interpretation allowed. well, you can’t have it both ways without contradicting yourself.

& about circular reasoning, let’s abrogate that. reasoning based on Truth is radial.
GOD is the center & source of all Truth. His Word is Truth. [John 17:17] this nullifies human
authority except where it is actually delegated by GOD.

James 1:
17 Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights,
with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.

as i see it catholic hierarchy derives their authority
from the pope which is derived from catholic interpretation of “upon this Rock I will build My Church”.
Which in turn is Scripture & thus is a form of sola scriptura. i’ve brought this up because i know most catholics don’t believe it. nevertheless,
without that passage in Scripture, there would be no basis for a pope, even though i believe catholic
doctrine on this passage to be false.

finally, about this: “no need to appeal to Scripture for Church pronouncements”
false doctrine declared by catholic authority, imposed on the disagreeing, enforced by violence. this is the inquisition. .

so you’ll understand when few protestants have any respect or trust for so called catholic authority, its uniquely unBiblical doctrines & its label of heretic against those who disagree.


156 posted on 09/07/2008 8:02:36 PM PDT by Psalm_2 (Break up your fallow ground, For it is time to seek the LORD Until He comes..Hos10:12)
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