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To: aruanan
How is it that one can be saved yet not sealed by the Holy Spirit? Is not the Holy Spirit the seal of the promise of our hope? Is this is not true then God is a lier.

Which verse are you referring to on the Restrainer?

37 posted on 08/18/2008 8:54:24 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; ....)
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To: guitarplayer1953
2 Thessalonians 2 NIV
The Man of Lawlessness
1Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. 3Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
40 posted on 08/18/2008 9:00:42 PM PDT by uptoolate (I will be voting for a real conservative)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Don’t confuse salvation with Rapture.


61 posted on 08/18/2008 9:42:13 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: guitarplayer1953
How is it that one can be saved yet not sealed by the Holy Spirit? Is not the Holy Spirit the seal of the promise of our hope? Is this is not true then God is a lier.

Pick me again...

Correct...The Holy Spirit is the seal of the promise...Those folks in the Tribulation have no seal of the promise...That's why THEY must ENDURE to the END...THE END OF THE TRIBULATION...

113 posted on 08/19/2008 8:13:26 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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