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To: free_life
Clearly the church will not escape the tribulation and the faithful will have to endure till the end when Jesus returns and catches His people up into the air on His way down to bring His judgment and peace.

What leads you to believe that the Church must suffer the wrath of God which has been reserved for those who do evil in the last 3.5 years of the Tribulation? Are we to suffer His wrath for doing good?

34 posted on 08/18/2008 8:49:27 PM PDT by uptoolate (I will be voting for a real conservative)
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To: uptoolate

Note that when Christ meets the Church in the air, His destination is not downwards, but upwards to take the Church up. The downward approach also occurs, the wrathful, Day of the Lord, but for a different objective, in bringing in the Millennial Kingdom.

No earth dweller shall escape the the cataclysms of the Great Tribulation, but those who prevail shall escape to stand before the Son of man. (See Luke 21:34-37)


39 posted on 08/18/2008 9:00:31 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: uptoolate

God will not remove His people from the world during this time. He will protect them in the world.

1. This is the point of God “sealing” the saints in Revelation 7:3. (Note that the sealing takes place before the winds of judgment are released. See 7:1).

2. Also cf. Revelation 3:10—“Because you have kept [Greek tereo] the word of My perseverance, I also will keep [tereo] you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown.”

3. Question: How will Jesus do this?

4. Note how this verb is used in John 17:15—“I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep [tereo] them from the evil one.”

(thanks Dave)

Being here during Gods wrath and suffering the wrath are not the same things.


131 posted on 08/19/2008 2:22:51 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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