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Does the "Jesus Stone" Hurt Christianity
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| 7-19-2008
| Eric Francke
Posted on 08/07/2008 8:57:37 AM PDT by francke
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:57:38 AM PDT
by
francke
To: francke
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:01:13 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
To: francke
The essence of the article and the opinion of the scholars quoted is that somehow, the credibility of Christianity is at stake, on the grounds that this pre-Christian inscription, also known in scholastic circles as Gabriels Revelation, robs Christianity of its uniqueness and novelty.
Only one Savior gonna get you to Heaven. I’d say that’s pretty darned unique!
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:01:59 AM PDT
by
Grunthor
(McCain. Not because he deserves it, but because he's less wrong than Obama on oil)
To: francke
Not any more than all of the prophesies in the Bible which point to His coming do. I suppose if someone were predisposed not to believe, they will see this as proof it’s made up, but the only thing I can do for them is pray for the scales to fall from their eyes.
susie
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:02:42 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(Obama--Jimmy Carter's Second Term)
To: francke
Christians won’t believe this proves anything. Of Course, if had been later and it had Joshua on it, they would claim it as absolute proof of Jesus’ existence.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:03:00 AM PDT
by
Soliton
(> 100)
To: francke
Interesting. Christianity was creating quite a stir and
more than a few people were witneses to the events.
To: francke
Does the "Jesus Stone" Hurt Christianity No, why do they ask?
To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Agreed. Accounts of Jesus’ life were written “back then.”
They aren’t some modern retrospective or book of fables.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:09:48 AM PDT
by
Tex Pete
(Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
To: francke
also known in scholastic circles as Gabriels Revelation, robs Christianity of its uniqueness and novelty. What the "Jesus stone" does is shows that there were Jews in the 1st century BC who were expecting a Messiah to come who would die for the nation and rise in three days. Which is an idea they would have gotten from the Hebrew Scriptures. The same place that the first Christians (who were Jews) go it from.
To: francke
Of course the prophecies were known. That’s why Pilate was asked to post a guard at the tomb. There must be all sorts of prophecies (that were actually true) known to Jew and Gentile alike. Whywas Herod so worked up over “his” star? These scholars, who take it as a given that the supernatural does not mingle with affairs here, are going to deconstruct themselves out of existence.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:10:03 AM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics)
To: francke
Dr. Israel Knohl, a Bible professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem states it as thus: Resurrection after three days becomes a motif developed before Jesus, which runs contrary to nearly all scholarship. LOL, I have no idea what 'scholarship' they are talking about, but it doesn't contradict the Bible which prophesied Jesus's coming all along.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:10:33 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
What the "Jesus stone" does is shows that there were Jews in the 1st century BC who were expecting a Messiah to come who would die for the nation and rise in three days. Which is an idea they would have gotten from the Hebrew Scriptures. You would think 'scholars' could figure these things out.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:11:54 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: francke
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:12:02 AM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: francke
If you have read the Bible you know that many people, before the days of the New Testament and Jesus, wrote about the future of a coming messiah (not obama). Claiming that these writings disprove Jesus is just plain wrong and misleading.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:12:25 AM PDT
by
onlylewis
(libs want a two class system, one rich one poor)
To: francke
No, it’s just stupid.
My apology.
I read glanced over this too fast.
It’s not stupid. It’s interesting.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:13:14 AM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: Soliton
Christians wont believe this proves anything. Of Course, if had been later and it had Joshua on it, they would claim it as absolute proof of Jesus existence.No serious scholar believes that Jesus never existed.
In any event, a favorite argument of opponents of Christianity has been the claim that the concept of a resurrected Messiah is distinctly un-Jewish and an importation by Christians of pagan Osiris cultism into Judaism.
This stone, if authentic, would imply that the concept of a resurrected Messiah was not an un-Jewish innovation of the late first century, but a part of the jewish theological landscape.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:13:25 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If you have read the first article when this news came out, they them selves even confessed that parts of the text was missing or in legible ( un able to read the letters ) or blurred.
They even admitted that they had to be creative in figuring out what the text actually meant.
In other words, they made some of it up.
To: Always Right
You would think 'scholars' could figure these things out. Yes, you would, wouldn't you? But that's just it - "scholars" are often anything but. Often, they have agendas, sometimes they just aren't as competent as we would assume them to be.
To: Soliton
Christians wont believe this proves anything. What do you think it proves? All it shows is that a few people may have actually figured out what the Old Testament was foreshadowing. It actually is proof that the Old Testament really did foreshawdow Jesus, and Jesus really did fullfil the Old Testament prophecies and the salvation that Jesus provides was not just some theory that was constructed after the fact.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:15:54 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: onlylewis
Claiming that these writings disprove Jesus is just plain wrong and misleading. To me if offers confirmation that Jesus is who He said is.
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posted on
08/07/2008 9:18:47 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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