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To: kosta50

Before we got side tracked, mainly by my frustation that I can quote St. Paul as an authority, you responded (71) to my entry (60) and were going to respond some more. I’d like to return back to that part of the discourse, if you have time. I’m looking at St. John of Damascus at this point and his points on predestination, foreknowledge, omniscience and how these three realities don’t equal predetermination nor ignorance on the part of God. I’ll need some time to ponder these things. What else were you going to respond to in (60)?


93 posted on 08/12/2008 5:23:08 AM PDT by koinonia ("Thou art bought with the blood of God... Be the companion of Christ." -St. Ephraim)
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To: koinonia; kosta50
Sorry about the typo, the first line above should read:

Before we got side tracked, mainly by my frustation that I cannot quote St. Paul as an authority,

94 posted on 08/12/2008 5:25:07 AM PDT by koinonia ("Thou art bought with the blood of God... Be the companion of Christ." -St. Ephraim)
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To: koinonia
Before we got side tracked, mainly by my frustation that I cannot quote St. Paul as an authority, you responded (71) to my entry (60) and were going to respond some more. I’d like to return back to that part of the discourse, if you have time

Of course.

105 posted on 08/12/2008 11:38:42 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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...my frustation [to kosta's objection] that I cannot quote St. Paul as an authority...

I didn't say you can't qote him as authority. Of course you can, but if you want him to carry some weight (rememebr: you are arguing to convince me, not you), then Pauline statenments should be synchronized (corroborated) with those of the Gospels. Otherwise, you are using St. Paul as a stand-alone authority that trumps Christ.

107 posted on 08/12/2008 11:44:55 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: koinonia
What else were you going to respond to in (60)?

I will have to re-read everything. Part of the reason I stopped and never came back to it is because I gave you specific verses to back up my arguments and you totally ignored them (#74). You never went pasts my first paragraph. Why should I spend time and energy researching my notes only to have them ignored. My post #71 is pretty lengthy and is full of quotes.

For instance the one where Jesus tells his disciples "your God and my God." His God?!? It seems you never even saw something as provocagtive as that verse is. For if you did, I can't imagine that you wouldn't respond.

It's like you never even read it.

But I will go back to your post #60 and see what I left out. The reason I had to break it is because it took so long to put together than I couldn't do it in one sitting , and when I realized that all that work was going to just go over like a lead balloon, I saw no reason to continue.

108 posted on 08/12/2008 11:57:44 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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