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To: AnalogReigns; big'ol_freeper

Anathemata refer to doctrines, not to people.

Certain doctrines, for example, those invented by Luther, indeed are, and always will be, anathema. That means that an informed freely undertaken belief in them is a grave sin and if unrepented, leads to Hell.

But the rub is in this “informed”, “freely undertaken”, and “unrepented”. Anyone can repent and convert in his heart, — therefore we cannot say if Luther is himself in hell. There is this anecdote: someone is mourning his relative who committed suicide by jumping off a bridge. Yet the priest explained to him: do not presume that he is in hell on the account of that mortal sin. There was plenty of time after the feet left the railings and the head hit the water.

Further, one may grow into a non-Catholic environment and in his most ardent desire to unite to Christ have false beliefs inculcated in him by his community of faith. That is not then an informed decision of free will: he was mislead by his pastor and parents. Such man will be judged on his works but not on the imperfections of his belief. Or one may be unaware that the doctrine was anathemized and be in a sincere error. There are many exculpatory scenarios depending on one’s culture, personal history, and education. This is why we never presume damnation, and we only proclaim factual salvation of canonized saints. All we do is point out false doctrines.


366 posted on 07/27/2008 1:10:19 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; AnalogReigns; Quix; XeniaSt; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; wmfights; Forest Keeper; enat
Anathemata refer to doctrines, not to people.

LOLOLOL!

Are you just making this up on the fly, hoping nobody notices?

COUNCIL OF TRENT -
CANONS ON JUSTIFICATION

If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema." 

According to the link (and to history and the dictionary)...

"...you will see the word "anathema" used many times by the Council.  This means that those who disagree with the doctrines of this Council are cursed.  In Gal. 1:8-9, the word "anathema" is used.  The curse must come from God.  Therefore, we conclude that according to Roman Catholicism, anyone who disagrees with the following Canons are cursed of God.  The Roman Catholic church excommunicates those under anathema.  In other words, excommunication means being outside the Christian church.  Being outside the church means you are not saved.

In spite of what Catholicism states, the Bible speaks differently."

 
396 posted on 07/27/2008 1:28:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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