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To: tarheelswamprat; Dog Gone
"The bible is full of references to the Tigris and Euphrates, and even Abraham’s home is said to be in Ur, which is in Iraq."

A major (possible) misconception is that Abram's (later, changed to Abraham) home was Ur in Iraq.

However, there is theory & evidence that "Ur of the Chaldees" was in the upper reaches of the Tigris & Euphrates.

The Chaldeans LATER moved toward southern Iraq, from what was their more northern homeland area at the presumed time of Abraham.

This would place them much closer to Harran, both physically & culturally, than if they had migrated from the Ur in southern Iraq.

30 posted on 07/19/2008 4:46:07 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

That’s interesting and I guess possibly true, but the Tigris River comes out of Turkey and Euphrates out of Syria, and they really don’t come close enough to each other to mention in the same sentence until they’re in Iraq.

Another thing worth considering is that both the Tigris and Euphrates are mentioned in the first couple chapters of Genesis, which was pre-Noah’s flood.

There is absolutely no reason to believe that a catastrophic worldwide flood would result in the same rivers being there post-flood.

In the efforts to achieve full transparency, I don’t believe that there was a global flood as recounted in Genesis. I think the legend was the result of a local flood in early history. It may have seemed global to them at the time, but it makes no sense, is not supported by the geological evidence, and certainly not the biological evidence.

The Tigris and Euphrates were approximately where they are before the flood that didn’t happen, and where they are today.

The whole origin of the Israelites, where the Garden of Eden was, etc., has its roots to Iraq. At least that’s what I’m currently thinking.

Where does the Gilgamesh Epic come from that many biblical scholars use to suggest that the Noah Flood is true?

Iraq.


32 posted on 07/19/2008 5:22:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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