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To: Moonman62
If you aren’t redeemed according to the Baptists, you’re going to fry in hell for all of eternity.

You say that like the baptists are the ones that came up with that doctrine. Obviously, that isn't true. That doctrine comes straight from the Bible.
7 posted on 07/18/2008 6:54:15 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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10 posted on 07/18/2008 7:02:38 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: JamesP81

Baptists, historically, have had to back-to-back distinctives that are noteworthy:

a) Individual soul liberty;
b) the priesthood of the believer.

Baptists who understand their Bibles and their heritage are not likely to make a statement that implies that there is any such thing as a Baptist redemption. Baptists don’t believe that they have any corner on redemption or salvation. They don’t believe that being a member of their churches is either pre-requisite to, or sustaining of, salvation. Baptists don’t believe that water baptism (by any mode) can save, can keep one saved, or contribute to salvation.

Baptists don’t believe in a “Baptist way” to Christ or to the soul’s salvation. They do believe that there is a Bible way, and that is a Person, Christ Himself in the virtue of His Blood Sacrifice (for our sins) and Resurrection (for our justification). (Romans 8:3; 4:25; etc.)


12 posted on 07/18/2008 7:07:18 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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no, the doctrine didnt ‘come from the bible’, it came from Christ’s mouth to his apostles, they in turn preached it, and wrote in their letters to the various churches to their appointed bishops and priests to preach it....after that that one holy catholic and apostolic church preserved those writings and under the guide of the holy spirit, brought together the books that became the bible, and preserved that for future generations.


16 posted on 07/18/2008 7:10:01 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: JamesP81
You say that like the baptists are the ones that came up with that doctrine. Obviously, that isn't true. That doctrine comes straight from the Bible.

It does? Please tell me where you find it.

20 posted on 07/18/2008 7:17:50 AM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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To: JamesP81
I think you're putting a comma in the sentence that isn't there. It reads...

If you aren’t redeemed according to the Baptists, you’re going to fry in hell for all of eternity.

The meaningful part is redeemed according to the Baptists. There is no comma after redeemed.

This is significant because we all need to be redeemed, but what exactly does that redemption involve? The Bible is our only source of undisputed Apostolic teaching.

Paul clearly writes in 1 Corinthians 3:10a "By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it."

The Baptists are building on the foundation laid by the Apostles. We do not need to be redeemed according to the Baptist view, but to the Apostolic view. Now the Baptists may be in complete agreement with the Apostolic teaching, but only time will tell. 1 Corinthians 3 continues "the fire will test the quality of each man's work."

The Apostles are the foundation, and everything else is built on that foundation. Only foundation is Truth without question. Everyone else's work will be judged with fire.

26 posted on 07/18/2008 7:31:16 AM PDT by Tao Yin (Hey, this thread isn't ecumenical)
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To: JamesP81

That doctrine comes straight from the Bible.
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I don’t recall the words ‘fry in hell’ as being in the Bible.


100 posted on 07/18/2008 9:51:00 AM PDT by dmz
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