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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Ahem... God could have done anything He wanted to. The fact remains that you have to live with the way He designed justice and the payment for it.

I'm not someone who denies the existence of hell. I'm just saying that heaven doesn't require hell. To say so is logically inconsistent to say it does. A corollary to that belief would be that good cannot exist without evil. If Satan hadn't fallen, tempted Adam and Eve, and thus had not necessitated that God create hell for him and those who do not accept Jesus, there would still be heaven. If God in the end only chose to save one person and send the rest to hell, He would still be a loving God.

164 posted on 07/18/2008 4:17:35 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123
If good can exist without evil, then everything is good and it holds no value as a definition. Good needs evil as much as evil needs good. You cannot have one without the other.

As Jesus spoke authoritatively about both, I accept His word that they both exist. I accept the price that must be paid by His sacrifice to erase my debt. And I do so with gratitude.

I have no reason to doubt His own words.

If Satan hadn't fallen, tempted Adam and Eve, and thus had not necessitated that God create hell for him and those who do not accept Jesus, there would still be heaven.

I don't place any value on the IF statement you made above. There is no erasing the fact that Adam and Eve did fall, that hell exists, and that it is the judgement of God that determines my eternal fate.

Wondering about ifs holds no value for me.

I simply accept the Word as fact and go on from there.

165 posted on 07/18/2008 4:37:19 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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