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As usual, you guys use less than a handful of scripture to supposedly prove a point as well as using an equal amount of citings from your catechism which is no more than a commentary by sinful men...

I'd say that your church in the case of predestination, made a lucky guess...

I believe in pre-destination...I beleive God pre-destinated the Gentile 'church' (not your church) before the foundation of the world...I do not believe God pre-destinated individuals... Although it's unbeknownst to any Catholic, there is abundant scripture that 'could' lead you in that direction...

There is however, plenty of scripture that allows for the pre-destination of the Gentile church, in general...