"Christ made the Church; the Church made the Book. No circle. A line, as it were. First Christ, then the Church, then the Book. I am sorry if you did not get it the first time."They have no witness.
"Nope, not a strawman. I was asking for clarification on your part. Would you care to comply? Or would you curtly cut the conversation?"I did clarify.
"Are you saying that you see Jesus and are physically following Him around?"No, you misunderstand.
"Dates, timeline. Did the Church exist at this moment? No. It was commissioned at Pentecost."Says the church that has no witness.
"What is the RCC?"Its the edifice in Rome operated by the man you know as the pope.
"Jesus did refer to the Church. Is it missing from your truncated Bible?"You mean those uninspired extra-biblical works?
"What is the RCC?"I get the feeling that if I went through your posting history, I would find that you already knew what the RCC was.
"If you make up your own theology and do not follow the Church of Jesus, then you must answer for it, not to me, nor to the Pope or to any man."Says the man whose church has placed science and uninspired works alongside inspired works.
***”Christ made the Church; the Church made the Book. No circle. A line, as it were. First Christ, then the Church, then the Book. I am sorry if you did not get it the first time.”
They have no witness.***
The Apostles and the writers of the Epistles serve as witnesses enough for me and for Bible Believers.
***”Nope, not a strawman. I was asking for clarification on your part. Would you care to comply? Or would you curtly cut the conversation?”
I did clarify.***
You did not. Would you please restate your position?
***”Are you saying that you see Jesus and are physically following Him around?”
No, you misunderstand.
Go back and re-read what I wrote and try to understand it this time.***
You mean without the tinfoil hat?
***”Dates, timeline. Did the Church exist at this moment? No. It was commissioned at Pentecost.”
Says the church that has no witness.***
Neither the Apostles nor the Holy Spirit is good enough for you?
***”What is the RCC?”
Its the edifice in Rome operated by the man you know as the pope.***
What does RCC stand for? What is an edifice? How do you know that I know the Pope?
***”Jesus did refer to the Church. Is it missing from your truncated Bible?”
You mean those uninspired extra-biblical works?
Exactly so: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Peter and Paul had some too, as I recall. How many pages has your Bible been reduced to?
***What is the RCC?”
I get the feeling that if I went through your posting history, I would find that you already knew what the RCC was.***
I’m not interested in your feelings.
***”If you make up your own theology and do not follow the Church of Jesus, then you must answer for it, not to me, nor to the Pope or to any man.”
Says the man whose church has placed science and uninspired works alongside inspired works.***
We are not interested in anything other than the truth. Not even the fantasies of those who would be their own Pope.
***Taking inspired and uninspired works and putting them together and calling them the word of God is making up your own theology.
The Catholic Church still has no witness.
Try to do better next time.***
We only have the witness of the Holy Spirit. Sorry if it will not suffice. Who is your witness by the way?