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Checklist for Anglican Tiber Swimming
Standing On My Head ^ | July 9, 2008 | Fr Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 07/09/2008 9:39:27 AM PDT by NYer


In 1994 I was an Anglican priest on the Isle of Wight. I had a wife and two young children. We lived in a beautiful Victorian vicarage in the country. I had two beautiful Norman churches to look after. (Brading Church pictured above)

My church was growing. My congregation were loving and kind. I wanted to stay there forever. Then the Church of England pulled the rug out from under me, and I began to plan a big adventure: swimming the Tiber.

Here's some advice for Anglican priests who are now in the situation I was in then. If you're an Anglican reading this, forward the post, put it on your blog, add a link, spread the news.

1. If you're thinking of coming home to Rome make sure you know why you're doing it. Dislike of women clergy isn't enough. 

The women bishops crisis should be causing you to examine the real status of the Anglican Church and the real claims of the Catholic Church. 

2. Read Eamon Duffy, Christopher Haigh and Jack Scarisbrick to really understand what happened in the sixteenth century. 

3. Practice your wave walking. You're going to have to step out of your little family fishing boat and walk on the waves for a bit. The weather is stormy. You'll probably both sink and swim, but you'll feel great because you're going with Peter, and once you've been hauled aboard the barque of Peter you'll be home.

4. Network with others who are thinking of leaving. Encourage each other. Don't feed your illusions about the Anglican Church. Think clearly. Speak clearly and do not be afraid. Network with those who took the step last time around. Make contacts in the Catholic Church.

5. Get in touch with the St Barnabas Society. They've been helping clergy converts for over a hundred years. I used to work for them. They have the resources to help you. They have former Anglican priests on their staff who work as pastoral advisors. They will never pressure you. They offer advice in total confidence.

6. You're going to be one of God's great gifts to the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, not all Catholics (including a good number of the English bishops) believe this. Be prepared for the fact that some Catholics will not welcome you with open arms.

7. Don't come to the Catholic Church with conditions. Don't expect instant ordination. Don't expect anything except to be humbly received and begin life as a Catholic layman. A friend of mine who was a former Protestant pastor was a Catholic for two years, and after sitting in the pew patiently his pastor said, 'I've got a job I'd like you to do..." "Yes father?" "Would you run the Bingo on the second Tuesday of the month?..."

8. If you're applying to be ordained, to see a bishop, for a dispensation from the vow of celibacy, for a job... be patient. They don't call Rome 'the eternal city' for nothing.

9. Be prepared for a huge outpouring of grace in your life. The Anglo Catholic Church is wonderful, the the reality, the truth, the fullness and the glory of the Catholic Church will almost be tangible as you take this step of faith.

10. Be prepared for the English Catholic Church. We have liberals in the Catholic Church too. Be prepared to be suspected of being a misogynistic crank. Be prepared to be misunderstood and marginalized.

11. You may have to give up beautiful vestments, beautiful music, beautiful buildings, beautiful liturgy. The Catholic Church in England is, in many ways, still an underground church of immigrants, the poor, the dispossessed, the scorned and the marginalized. Cheer up! You're moving from a boring established church to being part of the greatest subversive, underground revolutionary movement the world has ever seen.

12. Trust in God. I wish I could tell you my whole story, but I promise you, if you step out in faith God will not let you down. In the end no sacrifice for him and for his kingdom goes unrewarded. Your courage, your step of faith will inspire others. It will unlock graces in the world that you cannot now see. Are you concerned for your faithful people? That is beautiful, but when they see you step out in faith and give all for Christ they will be so amazed and enraged and disturbed and inspired that they will never forget it.

SPECIAL OFFER: For any bona fide Anglican priest who writes and asks, I will arrange a free copy of my book The Path to Rome--Modern Journeys to the Catholic Faith. Just drop me an email.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: anglican; catholic; tiber
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1 posted on 07/09/2008 9:39:28 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Father Dwight Longenecker

Brought up in an American Evangelical home, I went to Bob Jones University--the jewel on the buckle of the Bible Belt. While there I came down with a severe case of Anglophilia from reading too much C.S.Lewis and Tolkien and T.S.Eliot. I went to study theology at Oxford, was ordained as an Anglican priest and stayed in England for twenty five years. After ten years wearing a dog collar I was received into the Catholic Church. I spent ten years as a layman writing articles and books no one reads. Then the call came to return to the United States. In December 2006 I was ordained as a Catholic priest. I am now chaplain at St Joseph's Catholic School in Greenville, South Carolina, and I am on the staff of St Mary's Greenville.

2 posted on 07/09/2008 9:40:43 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: sionnsar

Posted at the suggestion of Fr. Longenecker who is sincere in his request.


3 posted on 07/09/2008 9:42:29 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer
12. Trust in God. I wish I could tell you my whole story, but I promise you, if you step out in faith God will not let you down. In the end no sacrifice for him and for his kingdom goes unrewarded. Your courage, your step of faith will inspire others. It will unlock graces in the world that you cannot now see. Are you concerned for your faithful people? That is beautiful, but when they see you step out in faith and give all for Christ they will be so amazed and enraged and disturbed and inspired that they will never forget it.

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This is the best one. :)

4 posted on 07/09/2008 9:49:59 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer
Whoo hooo!

(he's right, and much of what he says applies to laymen too. We former "high church" Piskies are sometimes looked at sideways and with suspicion by liberal Catholics . . . . )

5 posted on 07/09/2008 9:53:52 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer
What every well dressed Anglican needs:


6 posted on 07/09/2008 9:55:59 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

I’d add make sure your main reason for doing it regardless of your prior faith is because you believe it is the True Church founded by Jesus Christ.

Great post, btw. Thanks!


7 posted on 07/09/2008 9:56:37 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: NYer
11. You may have to give up beautiful vestments, beautiful music, beautiful buildings, beautiful liturgy. The Catholic Church in England is, in many ways, still an underground church of immigrants, the poor, the dispossessed, the scorned and the marginalized. Cheer up! You're moving from a boring established church to being part of the greatest subversive, underground revolutionary movement the world has ever seen.

12. Trust in God. I wish I could tell you my whole story, but I promise you, if you step out in faith God will not let you down. ....

Now That's a HUGE 10-4, with sprinkles, jimmies, whipped cream, AND marshmallow! AbsoLUTEly!

It is SO worth it.

8 posted on 07/09/2008 10:01:19 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’ll see your shirt and raise you! I just had these made for the men in preparation for our Retreat:

http://www.vistaprint.com/vp/ns/cart/viewlargerdoc.aspx?show_backside=false&width=600&doc_id=608445040&page_id=1


9 posted on 07/09/2008 10:16:26 AM PDT by Gman (Priest, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin)
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To: NYer

Father Longenecker,

If you’re reading this, I just wanted to let you know what a great job you’re doing with young adults.


10 posted on 07/09/2008 10:23:26 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Gman
I can't get it to display - just get a blank vistaprint page.

Now I'm dying of curiosity!

11 posted on 07/09/2008 11:14:11 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

http://gkupsidedown.blogspot.com/2008/07/checklist-for-anglican-tiber-swimming.html


12 posted on 07/09/2008 11:21:20 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Can someone tell me how to post a jpeg?


13 posted on 07/09/2008 11:26:04 AM PDT by Gman (Priest, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Can someone tell me how to post a jpeg?


14 posted on 07/09/2008 11:26:18 AM PDT by Gman (Priest, Anglican Diocese of San Joaquin)
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To: Gman
Sure can!

Type in the following, but omit ONLY the space inside each caret (i.e. don't omit the space between IMG and SRC):

< IMG SRC="" >

Put the jpg address in between the two quotation marks.

It should show up in preview if you've done it right.

good luck!

15 posted on 07/09/2008 11:32:24 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

To our Anglican brothers and sisters:

According to Google Maps, there are several major bridges crossing the Tiber. You can become Catholic without getting your feet wet!

Charter a bus and come on down!


16 posted on 07/09/2008 11:32:40 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
I've got that - we're talking about another graphic!

But thanks!

17 posted on 07/09/2008 11:33:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Gman

18 posted on 07/09/2008 11:35:55 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Christ said, “Many will come in my name...” Many have. The Roman Catholic Church used full power to abuse (kinda like the Republican Party over the past eight years). Wrong things were done. Innocent people have been hurt. Apologies and humility were and are in order.

All this being said, I truly believe in my heart of hearts that the Roman Catholic Church and the Vicar of Rome are the direct descendants of Christ and the Apostles. My prayer is that one day all Christians will come home to Rome and find a way to all live together in Christian unity. Perhaps this would be the best way to usher in Christ’s return.


19 posted on 07/09/2008 11:37:37 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: AnAmericanMother

ok. You’re welcome.


20 posted on 07/09/2008 11:38:19 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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