Posted on 07/08/2008 8:50:51 AM PDT by CTrent1564
The Bishop of Ebbsfleet, the Rt Rev Andrew Burnham, is to lead his fellow Anglo-Catholics from the Church of England into the Roman Catholic Church, the Catholic Herald will reveal this week.
Bishop Burnham, one of two "flying bishops" in the province of Canterbury, has made a statement asking Pope Benedict XVI and the English Catholic bishops for "magnanimous gestures" that will allow traditionalists to become Catholics en masse.
He is confident that this will happen, following talks in Rome with Cardinal Levada, head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and Cardinal Kasper, the Vatican's head of ecumenism. He was accompanied on his visit by the Rt Rev Keith Newton, Bishop of Richborough, the other Canterbury "flying bishop", who is expected to follow his example.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
johnnycap wrote:"Henry VIII is the Jimmy Carter of the sixteenth century in that his short sighted actions set in motion incredibly deep long term repercussions. "
9 posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:39:20 PM by johnnycap
Interesting analogy. He lusted in his heart, right?
Now, on the matter of the return of the real estate....
The Anglican Use Conference this weekend could not have come at a more appropriate and providential time. God’s planning is awesome!
Oh, golly, we should have done RCIA together then. I was a ROYAL pain in our class at the very liberal parish where we joined. Speaking the Truth, I called it.
I would also suggest that if Rome decides it will be accepting married Anglican bishops as bishops, there really isn’t anything more we Orthodox have to say to Rome.
What do you mean, Kolokotronis?
“What do you mean, Kolokotronis?”
I mean that if Rome allows these two Anglican bishops to be Roman bishops, however that might be accomplished short of their wives dying, Orthodoxy will have nothing more to say to Rome; the end of the dialogs and any chance for reunion.
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Why would that be?
I have another question you may be able to answer. If these Bishops take their entire parishes into the Catholic Church, what provision might there be for those that might not want to join, and will the CofE go after them to keep the properties like the TEC has done in the US? I know we walked away from our former property—praise the Lord!
According to a poster at Stand Firm in Faith, Bishop Newton has said the Telegraph has exaggerated this story.
This is the only thing I have a problem with.
Some of these English Bishops are more liberal than the one we have here in the US
“Why would that be?”
Because married bishops are forbidden by the canons. I suppose the Pope could “infallibly” abrogate those canons, but then we’d walk away from any discussions with Rome on account of that too.
If these Anglican bishops want to repent of their heresy and through some program become ordained priests, that’s fine...but not bishops.
If these Anglican bishops want to repent of their heresy and through some program become ordained priests, that’s fine...but not bishops.
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I have concerns about this issue as well. I am awaiting Pope Benedict's next move with much interest.
If you look at the case of (former) Bishop Jeffrey Steenson in the US, I think you will see how Rome handles it. He and his family were accepted into the Catholic Faith, and most likely he will be allowed to become a Catholic Priest. He will not be a Bishop. Under the Pastoral Provision (which only applies to the USA) no married Priest can ever become a Bishop (unless his wife dies).
Interesting. Thanks!
Thanks for the ping!
Well, I don’t think this applies to the these Traditional Anglicans who are seeking Communion with Rome.
Like I said, I think we need to wait and let this play out. I doubt anything will become public until after the Anglican Communion has Lambeth.
Regards
Rome is not going to take them as Bishops. They would be ordained under pastoral provision as Catholic Priests, but not Bishops. I can assure you, at least this IMO, that Pope Benedict sees the Orthdox Church as having the first place in ecumenical discussions and would not do anything to put more obstacles between Constantinopile and Rome.
Regards
Not an iota of difference?
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Perhaps it is simply my wish that it be so, yet I would have to agree.
Or so I pray.
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