How the Bible Came to Be: Part 7, The Sweet and Ripened Fruit

Nice (but wrong) interpretation. But it has nothing to do with Joseph Smith's Vision. John the Revelator did give is scripture regarding the ministering of angels in the last days as found in Revelation 14:6. Here ya go! Revelation 14:6 - And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth and to every nation and kindred and tongue and people -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- και conjunction kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ειδον verb - second aorist active indicative - first person singular eido i'-do: to see; by implication, (in the perfect tense only) to know -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- αγγελον noun - accusative singular masculine aggelos ang'-el-os: a messenger; especially an angel; by implication, a pastor -- angel, messenger. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- πετομενον verb - present middle or passive deponent participle - accusative singular masculine petomai pet'-om-ahee: to fly -- fly(-ing). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- εν preposition en en: in, at, (up-)on, by, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- μεσουρανηματι noun - dative singular neuter mesouranema mes-oo-ran'-ay-mah: mid-sky -- midst of heaven. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- εχοντα verb - present active participle - accusative singular masculine echo ekh'-o: (used in certain tenses only) a primary verb; to hold -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ευαγγελιον noun - accusative singular neuter euaggelion yoo-ang-ghel'-ee-on: a good message, i.e. the gospel -- gospel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- αιωνιον adjective - accusative singular neuter aionios ahee-o'-nee-os: perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well) -- eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ευαγγελισαι verb - aorist active middle or passive deponent euaggelizo yoo-ang-ghel-id'-zo: to announce good news (evangelize) especially the gospel -- declare, bring (declare, show) glad (good) tidings, preach (the gospel). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- τους definite article - accusative plural masculine ho ho: the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- καθημενους verb - present middle or passive deponent participle - accusative plural masculine kathemai kath'-ay-mahee: figuratively, to remain, reside -- dwell, sit (by, down). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- επι preposition epi ep-ee': meaning superimposition (of time, place, order, etc.), as a relation of distribution (with the genitive case), i.e. over, upon, etc.; of rest (with the dative case) at, on, etc.; of direction (with the accusative case) towards, upon, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- της definite article - genitive singular feminine ho ho: the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- γης noun - genitive singular feminine ge ghay: soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application) -- country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- και conjunction kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- επι preposition epi ep-ee': meaning superimposition (of time, place, order, etc.), as a relation of distribution (with the genitive case), i.e. over, upon, etc.; of rest (with the dative case) at, on, etc.; of direction (with the accusative case) towards, upon, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- παν adjective - accusative singular neuter pas pas: apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- εθνος noun - accusative singular neuter ethnos eth'-nos: a race (as of the same habit), i.e. a tribe; specially, A FOREIGN (NON-JEWISH) one (usually, by implication, pagan) -- GENTILE, heathen, nation, people. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- και conjunction kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- φυλην noun - accusative singular feminine phule foo-lay': an offshoot, i.e. race or clan -- kindred, tribe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- και conjunction kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- γλωσσαν noun - accusative singular feminine glossa gloce-sah': the tongue; by implication, a language (specially, one naturally unacquired) -- tongue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- και conjunction kai kahee: and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- λαον noun - accusative singular masculine laos lah-os': a people -- people.

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Since the OT is written in Hebrew/Aramaic while the NT is written in Greek, comparing the “text” of the bible (even if using the English AV) to Mormon scripturess is rather pointless.

JMHO

Is this some sort of satire. I’m somewhat new so maybe I’ve missed out on some posting history.

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Is this some sort of satire.

Nope.

Paul wrote the DESCRIPTION of JS' visions quite accurately.

(Well... ONE of the visions; anyway...)

But to WHICH version of the 'vision' are you going to refer? There are a BUNCH of them!!

FIRST VISION:VARIOUS VERSIONS OF VISIONS


Version Number When Published Brief Description	Age Year	Pillar of light	No. of Person- ages	Father Present	Son Present	Question: Join What Sect?	Remarks-References
1. Offical version, written 1838, first Published 1842 (There are minor differences between the various source references, Ensign Jan 1985, page 14)	14 1820	yes	2	yes Both spoke	yes	Join none	Lucy, Hyrum, Samuel, Sophronia join the Presbyterian Church - JSH, pages 49-50, 1981 edition; Times & Seasons, March, April 1842; Ensign Jan. 1985, page 14; Joseph Smith's First Vision by Milton V. Backamn, Bookcraft, 1971, 1980, Appendix C, page 160f
2. Dictated by Smith to F.G. Williams, Summer to Nov. 1832	14 or 15	yes	1	no	yes Saw Lord, He "spoke"	No question, told "None doeth good", sins forgiven	Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix A, page 155f
3. Written by Smith, his 1832 diary, in his own hand	15	yes	1	no	yes Saw the Lord Jesus Christ	No question, told sins forgiven, all do no good	Ensign, Dec. 1984, pages 24-26; ibid, Jan. 1985, page 11
4. Smith's diary of 1835, recorded by Warren Cowdery, Nov. 9, 1835, conversation of Smith with Joshua	About 14	yes	One, then another like unto first	?	? Second spoke, saw many angels	No questions, told sins forgiven, Jesus is Son	Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appen. B
5. Letter form Smith to John Wentworth, editor of Chicago Democrat	none	no	2	? They spoke	?	No Question	Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix D; Ensign, Jan 1985, page 16; Times & Seasons, Vol 3, pages 706-707, March 1, 1842
6. Early church leaders Brigham Young, G.A.Smith, John Taylor	15	no	1 Saw an angel, and asked the angel	no	no	Join none	See Journal of Discourses, 2:17; 18:239; 13:77, 78; 20:167; 12:333, 334.

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John Farkas, Berean Christian Ministries, P.O. Box 1091, Webster, N.Y. 14580

“VARIOUS VERSIONS OF VISIONS...”

Good point, and I’ll admit that some of the earlier writings are almost opaque in their language. I’m no Mormon but I can give credence to the idea of revelantion expressed through a specific language but essentially indepedent of any specific language. I suppose that sounds a bit Barthian but otherwise poor language could seriously jeopardise the status of any given “revelation”.