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Church [of England] Votes For Women Bishops
sky ^ | 11:35pm UK, Monday July 07, 2008

Posted on 07/07/2008 4:12:34 PM PDT by Grig

The Church of England's ruling body has voted to go ahead with the ordination of women bishops.

But the Church was facing a damaging split after members of its General Synod threw out compromise proposals on females in senior ranks.

All safeguards demanded by traditionalists were rejected.

Sky News correspondent Mike McCarthy said: "It's a historic and very significant moment for the Church of England.

"The real test now is how many people will leave (the Church). There are certainly going to be many wrestling with their consciences."

The Synod members voted to approve work on a national statutory code to accommodate those within the Church who object to women bishops.

But the Synod rejected compromise plans for new "super bishops" to cater for objectors - and also their preferred option of creating new dioceses.

The decision to go ahead with work on the code came after more than six hours of debate by the General Synod, which saw extraordinary scenes, with one bishop in tears as he spoke of being "ashamed" of the Church of England.

The Rt Rev Stephen Venner, Bishop of Dover, who is in favour of women bishops said: "I have to say, Synod, for the first time in my life, I feel ashamed.

"We have talked for hours about wanting to give an honourable place to those who disagree.

"We have been given opportunities for both views to flourish. We have turned down every, almost realistic opportunity for those who are opposed to flourish."


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Other non-Christian
KEYWORDS: anglicans; coe; europeanchristians; femalebishops; gaychurch; immoralityorg; impurecoven; nonchristiancult; religiousleft; womynpriests
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1 posted on 07/07/2008 4:12:34 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
So, they've voted to expand upon their apostasy. I wonder if we will now see the 1300 clergy members and 11 bishops who threatened to leave, finally do it.

The Church of Rome is looking at potentially millions of new members defecting from this dying, apostate body. And I say that as a Protestant, because I consider it good news.

2 posted on 07/07/2008 4:16:43 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Grig

Ruth Gledhill has been live blogging the Synod. You can read her blog and the comments here

http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2008/07/women-bishops-t.html#more


3 posted on 07/07/2008 4:20:17 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Boagenes

“... they’ve voted to expand upon their apostasy.”

What apostasy would that be?


4 posted on 07/07/2008 4:22:15 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

Women priests.


5 posted on 07/07/2008 4:23:54 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Boagenes

Not being a theologian, why is women priests an apostasy?


6 posted on 07/07/2008 4:32:09 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

1 Timothy.


7 posted on 07/07/2008 4:35:16 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: PurpleMan
And gay clergy is next. Mark my words. What the Episcopal Church has done in America is a foreshadowing of what the Church of England itself is going to do. First women priests, then women bishops, then openly gay clergy. That's the next step. Wait and see. Who pushed for and approved the gay bishop Gene Robinson in the Episcopal Church? Jefferts Schori, a woman "bishop".

The election of women to the priesthood always leads to increasing liberalism and ultimately the rejection of scripture in favor of false doctrine. Always. This is why Paul wrote what he did in 1 Timothy.

8 posted on 07/07/2008 4:40:28 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Grig

If England’s church needed any more help in meeting total collapse, this ought to do it.


9 posted on 07/07/2008 4:44:52 PM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: Boagenes

My church split from the Vineyard fellowship because they started allowing women to be pastors.

My fear was exactly what you stated that when women become pastors, the churches become more liberal and do reject scripture. That’s what I’ve seen in the Methodist church and others that I have been involved in.


10 posted on 07/07/2008 4:50:04 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
You can pretty much trace the rejection of scripture and the entrance of apostate teaching in any of the mainstream denominations to the ordination of women. It always introduces a "liberalism" that then begins to agitate for "reform" - this means, in liberalese, denial of the authority of scripture, denial of infallibility of scripture, and denial of inerrancy of scripture. From this, then flow all the following heresies and liberalism that enter the church body...ordination of homosexual clergy, support for gay marriage, refusal to condemn homosexuality, support for abortion (under "women's rights") and so forth.

Now if you asked me why, I would suggest (and I have no data to back it up, just personal observation and suspicion) that this all happens because the vast majority of women entering the clergy are lesbians (even if temporarily closeted ones). Therefore these once conservative denominations are destroyed by the admittance of a radical lesbian contingent into the clergy of the denomination. This out of some misguided notion of "fairness", and with utter disregard for God's Word (1 Timothy).

11 posted on 07/07/2008 5:06:11 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Boagenes
And gay clergy is next. Mark my words.

Just so. Historically and empirically, aggressive feminist revisionists have served as a wedge to open the door for the militant homosexual lobby-- repeatedly observed and confirmed across the board.

12 posted on 07/07/2008 5:21:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Boagenes

As my formerly Anglican, now a Catholic Priest said, “Sometimes the best journeys start with phrases like, “Let’s get the heck out of here!”

I think that some of these Anglicans have changed their bottom line so many times, that they can no longer see the time to leave was ages ago.


13 posted on 07/07/2008 5:26:26 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I swam the tiber!)
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To: Boagenes

Within the next 10 years you will see widespread odinations of women and/or gays in many Protestant denominations.


14 posted on 07/07/2008 6:56:05 PM PDT by Grig
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To: hinckley buzzard

The first thing women clergy do is chase all the straight men and traditional families right out of the church, leaving it ripe for the gays and lesbians.


15 posted on 07/07/2008 9:16:19 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Grig

I don’t care what the Anglican church does.
I quit going to church because all the churches I went to were getting too feminist in teachings.


16 posted on 07/07/2008 9:40:11 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Ron Paul and if not him then Chuck Baldwin '08!)
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To: PurpleMan

It is a misunderstanding of the entire theology of Holy Orders, and represents a replacement of Christianity with Marxism (e.g., the priesthood and episcopacy are about “power”, thus women must be ordained, or they are excluded from said power...classic Marxist thought).


17 posted on 07/07/2008 9:45:02 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: lastchance

That was a pretty good account. God bless those priests that spoke up in the comment section who were frustrated and angry.

Freegards


18 posted on 07/07/2008 9:49:34 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: luckystarmom
when women become pastors, the churches become more liberal and do reject scripture. That’s what I’ve seen in the Methodist church and others that I have been involved in.

I am not sure if the female leadership causes liberalism, or the liberalism causes feminist leadership.

Theological issues aside, I could tolerate women clergy if they were orthodox. But it never happens that way. Orthodox women do not want to be priests and bishops.

19 posted on 07/08/2008 2:13:18 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: sionnsar; Huber

Anglican ping


20 posted on 07/08/2008 2:22:52 AM PDT by kalee
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