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To: lupie; Judith Anne
Thers are no widespread, worldwide, corporate level Protestant Churches, except maybe the tiny Anglican one. However,

Welcome to a collection of news reports on ministers who have sexually abused children:

Source: www.reformation.com

ALL Protestant denominations - 838 Ministers

147 Baptist Ministers

251 "Bible" Church Ministers (fundamentalist/evangelical)

140 Anglican/Episcopalian Ministers

38 Lutheran Ministers

46 Methodist Ministers

19 Presbyterian Ministers

197 various Church Ministers


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59 posted on 07/04/2008 11:41:22 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Thers are no widespread, worldwide, corporate level Protestant Churches

Perhaps not worlwide, but there are several widespread church sytems with corportate hierarchy. I will take off the worldwide criterium. The others stand. And the articles you linked do not meet those. Not even close. They are of individual abusers. And some are not even Christian - like Jehovah Witness or Mormons. The only link that I saw that was even a little close as to the disgusting coverup of the hierarchy who moved the predators from church to church to protect the abusers at the expensive of the unsuspecting flock. No offense, but I am not going to go through all those links. I simply do not have the time. You did not seem to attempt to provide what I asked for, so the burden of proof is still on you if you also hold to what she does in that the Protestants have the same degree of corruption in these awful sexual predator scandals as the RCC. I will give you the same challenge, a little refined that I gave Judith Ann:

Can you please give facts, FR links and article links that show the widespread, all the way up the corporate level church system that covers up and protects the abusers for years and years and years, knowing what the abusers continue to do, and even moving them to new congregations, knowing that they will likely repeat the abuse, knowing that they are protecting the sinners and not the innocent flock? And can you provide that same information for those church systems that only acted to remove the abusers from the presence of children because they were "found out" and the masses starting getting upset? If you can show that on a widespread basis, as is clearly what happened in the RCC, THEN, and only THEN, can you rightly accuse the protties of doing the same thing.

If you can't, then please don't post these to me. I already know this goes on, as I said before. As long as we live in a fallen world, we will have wolves parading around in sheep's clothing and even as shepherds, no matter what denominational name is on the front of the church, if any. That is not the issue here, as I said above. The issue that sickens me most of all (and the abuse is disgusting in and of itself), the the worst is the cover up by those in authority who moved these priests around for years as they continue to abuse children time and time again. Those authoritative figures are worse sinners, if that were possible, than the abusers. Totally unbiblical behavior. That is the outrage against the RCC. They only put a band-aid on the first level of the problem.

61 posted on 07/05/2008 4:51:12 PM PDT by lupie
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